Just letting all of you know that it appears that Mike Holmgren has purchased a home in Green Bay. I'm not saying anything else about it, I just found that interesting. Take it for what it's worth! Now, criticize away!!!

Maybe he just wanted to be close to his old pal Ron Wolf

Where did you come across the home purchase info ?

I'm with Satori... source?

I'd heard that because of the economy and the "rift" thats developed....BF was selling his restaurant to Holmy.
Mike wants to "retire"...run the place and tend bar.


(for total bs, thats not bad eh?)

As in the" Mike Holmgren?" Or just some guy with the same name....

Untill a legit source is put up. I will belive this as much as I belive that Shanahan and Cowher bought houses on either side of Holmgren. Actually wait that's it. The Packers will fire Murphy, TT, and MM after the season. Holmgren will then be hired as team president, Shanahan as the GM, and Cowher as HC.

I think this is a pipe dream by some just because Holgram was the last HC when the Packers won a Super Bowl last. However, TT did go with him to Seattle before he came back to be the Packers HC. That doesn't mean I think Holgram is going to be back working in Green Bay anytime soon. Just that I don't think TT/Holgram are on bad terms or anything like that.

The source is himself. Thats good enough for me. What is this, The Washington Post, debating Watergate? A football message board.

FWIW, Harlan was seen leaving Wolf's home in Green Bay this afternoon. His driver was a large burly looking man which one eye-witness said reminded him of a Walrus.

I agree, no one asks any of the other rumor mongers where they get their scuttle from.

We have "rumor" people with supposed inside sources that post nonsense every other day throughout the offseason. Nobody questions their sources even though they are obviously throwing crap out there they found off of internet searches or just made up. Why question the sources on this? It is in "On the Streets", after all.

Why do you care? Are you jakes daddio?

I suppose you want a DNA/paternity test now.

why do you ask for a source, big guy?? This is OTS forum. Anything goes and you can post whatever the hell you want even if it is made up BS. If you have a problem with it take it to the moderators.

I wondered where he read or heard this. Thought that was pretty obvious.

The "rumor" posted to begin this thread was exactly the same as one Arrigo posted on another Packer forum. Not the same rumor, mind you...exactly the same in every way.

Here's the rumor from the other site:

"Just letting all of you know that it appears that Mike Holmgren has purchased a home in Green Bay. I'm not saying anything else about it, I just found that interesting. Take it for what it's worth! Now, criticize away!!!"

Same...word for word. I have no idea who came up with it first. But are two unreliable sources worse than one? Or better?

But hey, as they said, it is OTS. Someone could say they heard aliens are taking over and I wouldn't give a damn.

Not that the rumors aren't entertaining sometimes....

I posted his rumor on other sites since a lot of the people on those sites don't post here. Jakesdaddio knows I do that and there is no issues.

J-D is a person I consider friend (which is a term I don't use to often about people) and I will say that he has more info about certain things then most people here. If he heard this then it must have been from a person with-in the Packers organization or someone close to a person in the organization. He normally doesn't post rumors, rather giove them to various memebers to post because of the B.S. that happens every time a rumor is posted.

FWIW, another PC poster (who will remain nameless) also heard something simular...

Yeah....something ain't computing here.


Holmgren is, "quietly" talking w/ Green Bay, yet it's assumed he's going to get on board with Cleveland, yet he's already bought a house in Green Bay.

Would any person with, "inside information" care to elaborate on how ridiculous that sounds?

Maybe Mike and Kathy just liked it here when they lived here, and that is why they are house hunting in GB. Do we always have to read more into something than is really there.

I think if this was true the GB tv & papers would have reported it by now. They would have heard if Holmgren had bought a house here and ran with it.

Do you feel better now?

Yes, much better. Thank You.

Well let's see, it's posted on a Packers message board....You're telling me the OP is just passing along real estate information? Seems like there's someting being implied here, no?

I now live in the Twin Cities, interestingly enough last weekend a guy on the local radio, with some connections to the Vikings, said Holmgren in Green Bay next year, bank on it. I thought that was wierd.

He did say with Chucky...but with him signing an extension...I don't know if it has any legs.

I'll bite.

No faster way to unite the Packer fanbase. If he wants to coach, no better place to do so. He's effectively in the job as long as he wants it, because nobody is going to run him out of town. The fans and organization will effectively let him do whatever he wants, on a team that is much closer to the playoffs than the browns will be even 3-5 years from now.

Not a bad gig, if he can work for Ted Thompson.

I don't think he wants to coach. The question should be, would he want to keep Mike McCarthy?

Back in Titletown in what capacity? Multiple years remain on TT and MM's contracts, and the season isn't a write-off yet. Even the Packer's home site is posting video of McCarthy recieving a game ball from the team last Sunday. SO where does that leave this rumor? Co-GM?, Co-head coach? Consultant? I'll believe it when I see it. Real entertaining thought though.

After what he did to this organization in 1998 caoching a team in the playoffs while negotiating his next gig I for one will not be giving him a free pass.
In fact I would be a hell of a lot more tough on him. I just don't get why so many people are excited about Holmgren.

Have TT & MM put their homes for sale yet?

This is kind of my mindset, too.

Respect and love the guy for what he brought to Green Bay for the years he was here, but I've always had a problem with the way he left. He'll always be a Packer legend to me, but I don't have this desire to give him carte blanche like some here do. You give carte blanche to a guy that was all about your franchise and loves it from head to toe. Holgren's not that guy.

If I want to see him here, it's because I think he's a good football mind. Not because of the Packer history. Personally, I think he might be able to do a good job as a GM, but I don't have him elevated as a special candidate simply because he was our Super Bowl coach. He went out in a crappy way that didn't show much in the way of loyalty.

The source is likely HouseAware, the companion site to FlightAware

You just plug in the rumored head coaches name and it keeps you posted on where he is buying a home

The cool thing is that these high profile guys always use their real names when they do it, so they are easy to follow around

When I read this rumor, I did not automatically dismiss it. After all, Wolf is retired and bought a home in GB, he likes it here. Holmgren is retired also. Why is it so hard to think that a retired man and his wife may want to own a home in a city they know very well and may happen to like? I imagine that Holmgren probably owns a few homes, probably one in Seattle, one in Cali, maybe a vacation place in the south. Why not one in GB? He's got the $$!

Just because he may or may not have bought a house in GB does not mean it has to have anything to do with coaching.

I'de give it the ol Snowballs chance in Hell. But if it has legs i'll say no thank you!
If he was that great of a GM (which he failed at in Seattle) I would believe that Seattle would have found a way to keep him in that capacity after he annointed Mora the new HC.

Despite what people on here think of TT, he has proven to be an above average GM and willing to make the unpopular decision that is the best for the franchise. So do you replace a guy who can do the job but has a deficiancy is his approach to FA'cy for a popular Former HC?

That would reek of the despiration of winning a popularity contest vs doing whats best for the organization.

I was going to run this by my source but he got fired for telling MM not to lay an egg.

I don't think Holgram is coming to Green Bay. However, Thompson went to Seattle with Holgram before coming back to Green Bay to be the GM. So it would seem they are on good terms. Not that I buy into this rumor at all, just saying.

I posted this on another thread here. The Bills are pursuing Shanahan and as you all know Browns are after MH. This was on ESPN radio at 5:00 am. Also they said the think both coaches will wait until the season is over to see what all jobs and offers are available before making a choice on which teams to go to.

I took some heat for mentioning MH awhile ago here. However,on NFL network; last year or year before when it was Favre 24 hrs. a day; they went through all of the coaches and staffs and so on. Somewhere in all of that was a piece on MH. MH had two regrets. One was he felt he let everyone down in the Bronco SB loss. The other was leaving GB. Said had he known that RW was to retire he would have stayed. His two favorite places are SF and GB.

IMO: If moving in another direction why not bring MH back and why wouldn't he come back? I will still stand by my assessment that this team is better then it has played. Yes, they do need players at certain positions and Woodson and Harris aren't getting any younger either. But I look what would entice MH and that is the one thing every team covets and is very hard to find and I believe the Packers have that player. Franchise QB Rodgers. Skill positions are pretty good on this team. Add a few pieces to the mix and i think this team could go from good to being one of the elite; especially with a HC like MH. MH brings a disciplianary approach and attention to every detail; something this year's team seems to have been missing.

Now for another thought to think about- Before Favre officially retired from the Jets; his family had went and bought a house in Min and also bought tickets for the Vikes at GB game. All of this before Brett signed with the Vikes. So just maybe MH buying a house in GB could mean that he's coming back in some capacity. Or it could just means they want a summer house back in GB again. We'll see. But as Patty used to say when RW was here: "Where's there is smoke; there is fire."

Holmgren will not be coaching in Clevland thats what my dog told me just now.And somehow I tend to agree with the dog.

Yeah, I'm with the dog, too. That organization I think is just disfunctional from ownership on down. Some would say ours is, too, I suppose. But I can't imagine Holmgren would come back for that lousy job.

Holmgren does not want to be a HC. Rumor is he wants to be like Parcells which is pretty much president of the team. ESPN reported that the Browns owner is willing to hand that over to Holmgren if he wants to step in that mess. Holmgren then would have the power to do pretty much anything he wanted hire the HC he wants and a GM if he would want one.

Trust me, Holmgren is not coming to GB.

Holmgren is interested in becoming a GM type position in the NFL, his resume at that position isnt exactly eye-popping . You'd be hiring a "name" with not much of a GM resume. and it wont come cheap. Holmgren as a coach is one thing, Holmgren as a GM has some flags.

He left Green Bay because a GM/HC position was offered in Seattle, but also because of quality of life issues. I think you can safely bet Mr and Mrs Holmgren wont be moving to Green Bay anytime soon. He'll have plenty of offers elswhere, including potentially Seattle where he wont have to move.

TThe Holmgrens have 3 houses:, Sante Fe NM, San Jose, CA, and Seattle and the kids families are primarily in Seattle. Paul Allen, owner of the Seahawks is the richest owner in sports, he has more money than all the NFL, baseball and basketball owners COMBINED. Not a bad gig for Holmgren if the NFL goes to an uncapped salary structure. If Mrs Holmgren has a say in the matter with their kids families in Seattle, guess where he's staying if its offered??

Keep in mind, Holmgren was also stripped his GM duties in Seattle so its not a given he goes there, but I think he'd have a hard time turning it down. Its perfect for him

What interesting is that Tim Ruskell has not been extended in Seattle yet and his deal ends this year. Me thinks Allen would like Holmgren back

Me thinks, you are right.

If Paul Allen wants Holmgren, it will likely get done. Holmgren came out and said he has some interest in the Cleveland job, which tells me the Seahawks probably havent approached him yet.