On who is to blame for the Packers situation this season:

“It is the head coach’s fault. Everything that goes on starts with the big man upfront. (Host: You said it was the personnel?) It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter with the talent and what you put on the field if you keep making mistakes week in and week out and you don’t correct it and the same thing keeps going on, guys running off the field. You got guys undisciplined like Johnny Jolly. Somebody has to step up and fix that and the head coach is the guy that is supposed to take care of everything at 1265 and when he can’t, he turns around and he’s supposed to have Ted standing right behind him to fix it as well. It starts with them two guys.”

Whether firing an assistant coach on offense or defense would help shake things up:

“Nope. If you want to shake it up you go to take out the head honchos. That is the only way because they still let that go on. You mean to tell me…I am coaching the Lacrosse Spartans, right…Let’s say that I am the head coach over there and my offensive line coach is steady letting these stupid penalties go on. Am I going to just sit there and say look man fix it or I am going to get rid of you? I am pretty sure that has gone on. If you don’t do anything about it he must like his offensive line to do what they are doing. So there is no changes. It is week 10. How much do you got to do before you do something?”

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I don't think the players would be happy if McCarthy made them do things the right way.

Gotta love Gilbert! And he's right.

Gilbert certainly speaks his mind. He was on 107.5 before the Vikings game and told a story about how he set some old lady straight in the supermarket (or wherever it was) who said she loves the Packers but can't see rooting against Brett Favre. He said, "Look lady, you gotta make up your mind! You can't do both!" Good stuff. You can't say he doesn't bleed the green and gold.

Is this the same Gilbert Brown that quit after coaching the Bonecrushers for like four games?

lol.

Sorry, Gilbert's an idiot. I hear him on WSSP all the time and I cringe when I hear his voice.

That is one funny picture. I almost spit out my drink.

I did spit mine !!!!!!!

He might be an idiot, but he's got this right about Dumb and Dumber.

Not like it took this long for me to figure out, nor did it probably Gilbert, but when a friend of mine, a 49er fan, talked about how bad our offensive line is this weekend...

Change is needed. It's close to getting to the point where everyone is on board, but Murphy.

EDIT: I don't want to be the downer about Heat's sig, because I chuckled the first time I saw it, but in reality, it's a pretty cruel reminder about the state of things going on at 1265.

Gilbert's Interview

Put Packers coach Mike McCarthy on notice: He's on the hot seat.

It's not just that former Packers DT Gilbert Brown has said McCarthy's to blame for the team's 4-4 start, but team president Mark Murphy is chiming in with how disappointed he is.

"I'm disappointed in where we are now, especially the loss to (previously winless) Tampa," Murphy told the Green Bay Press-Gazette. "Very disappointing to everybody, but we'll see how we respond."

Murphy said that while he expects more out the Packers, he still has confidence in GM Ted Thompson.

Jay Crawford (ESPN): If you were lining up for Green Bay, how would you approach getting to Brett Favre?

Gilbert: "He always wore that red jersey in practice so we couldn’t touch him. So, if i was out there I would mow everything down to get to him. Just to give him that lick. I wouldn’t grave dig him up or anything like that but I would fart on him."

On why Greg Jennings has dropped off:

“Why are we wasting time with that? It is a team situation now. Everybody starts pointing the finger at individuals when things go wrong. How about we point the finger at the whole team and the talent dude?”

Whether he is concerned about Aaron Rodgers play as of recently:

“I am concerned about everything. Defensively, offensively is like… You know what it is man? Let’s take a look at how many losses do they have? Four? Two losses belong to the Vikings. One loss belongs to the worst team in the NFL this year and Cincinnati which is playing very well. So let’s look at this. The Vikings have stole our swagger period. Everybody on that team stole our swagger. Took our quarterback. Took our heart on Lambeau Field. Took our heart in front of millions of fans on TV. Then you go out and lose to a 0-7 team. The debacle started when they played the Vikings right there. The two Vikings games crushed the season. They had so much riding on it. The fans had so much riding on it. Guy’s jobs is riding on it and now when you lose to a team like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who had not won a game this year, how do you get up to go play the Dallas Cowboys?”

On who is to blame for the Packers situation this season:

“It is the head coach’s fault. Everything that goes on starts with the big man upfront. (Host: You said it was the personnel?) It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter with the talent and what you put on the field if you keep making mistakes week in and week out and you don’t correct it and the same thing keeps going on, guys running off the field. You got guys undisciplined like Johnny Jolly. Somebody has to step up and fix that and the head coach is the guy that is supposed to take care of everything at 1265 and when he can’t, he turns around and he’s supposed to have Ted standing right behind him to fix it as well. It starts with them two guys.”

Whether firing an assistant coach on offense or defense would help shake things up:

“Nope. If you want to shake it up you go to take out the head honchos. That is the only way because they still let that go on. You mean to tell me…I am coaching the Lacrosse Spartans, right…Let’s say that I am the head coach over there and my offensive line coach is steady letting these stupid penalties go on. Am I going to just sit there and say look man fix it or I am going to get rid of you? I am pretty sure that has gone on. If you don’t do anything about it he must like his offensive line to do what they are doing. So there is no changes. It is week 10. How much do you got to do before you do something?”

LOL, OMG Greatest quote eeeeeeever!



Very True

He might be an idiot but what did he say that was wrong?

So did I. Very funny, Heat!

Well, at least we can still laugh about it!

Love that Picture! I would laugh if this situation wasn't so sad.

Good old Gravedigger. Notice how the former players with the rings are speaking out??? Maybe they are only speaking what current players on the team can't say? Either way; it obvious now and I think too much damage done regardless of how the season turns out to keep MC and maybe for TT also. Brown made valid points.

Love what Gibert did for this team when he was here. I would like to here what he has to say after the Packers have turned it around with 3 straight wins and controlling their playoff chances. Does he still think a coaching change is needed or was it a lull in the players stepping up and playing the game?

I believe Gilbert might have been part of a Packers team that lost to a winless Colts team years ago.

That team won the SB. (pretty sure Colts won 3 games all year)

Let's not let the 'win-streak' go to our heads. It is nice to see, but we need to be careful not to read too much into it.

We beat a decent, but over-rated Dallas team at home.
We beat an average, young SF team at home.
We beat a horrible Detroit team on the road.

Sadly, we lost some very good talent on Defense in the 2nd game. This could cause serious problems down the road. Not a big issue against Detroit.

The Ravens and Steelers games are looming. It looks like they are not as good as one would expect, but playing in Pittsburgh will be tough. The Bears are still smarting over our week 1 win and will do whatever they can to beat GB at home. Arizona may have its (horrible) division locked up by the finale, so we may be fortunate to catch them 'resting'. The Seattle game is the only one that I would be comfortable envisioning as a win (ala Tampa).

Anything can happen, but this team will likely go 3-2 over the last 5 games and finish a respectable, but under-achieving 10-6 with a Wild Card berth as a prize.

That being said, if they fail to finish that high or get a playoff spot, they should both get the door. With the talent on the team and the years of opportunity to make a difference, this team has not lived up to its ability. At least Sherman's teams made the playoffs consistently.

Color me cautiously optimistic about the remainder of the season.

I'll color you non-sensical.

If there is talent assembled on this this team,
why would you fire the GM??

They have already won more games than last year
and they have 5 more weeks to play.

Doesn't improvement count??

Do you fire the coach and GM every 5 years
if they don't win a SB??
IMO that's not the way to run a franchise.

Go Pack!!

I agree PatS4. You can not have your cake and eat it to. I was as furious as the rest of us after two losses to the Vikings and then the Bucs. However their have been very few acolades to the coaching staff after they positioned themselves as the front runners for the wild card with 5 to play. Have we become this spoiled.

I keep hearing this team is loaded with talent and this draft and the 2005,2006 are great drafts by any GM's standard. In the same sentences those same posters are calling for TT's firing. I understand as fans we have high expectations however why cant we enjoy the ride a bit and support the team. I also understand the hate some have for both TT and MM for the Favre debacle but come on these guys are doing an above average job by any NFL standards just look at other teams situations,.

Anything can happen, but this team will likely go 3-2 over the last 5 games and finish a respectable, but under-achieving 10-6 with a Wild Card berth as a prize.

That being said, if they fail to finish that high or get a playoff spot, they should both get the door. With the talent on the team and the years of opportunity to make a difference, this team has not lived up to its ability. At least Sherman's teams made the playoffs consistently.

How is 10-6 be under achieving?? Be for the pre-season no one was talking about the Packers as a playoff team. Pre-season a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon. I have seen a ton of fans hoping the team would be 500 at best, but those fans are hoping that to shove Ted out the door. This groupd feels that the Packers are entitled to a playoff spot each year and that we should let players run the team instead of management.

Sherman made the playoffs but how many times did he get chucked out of the first round, and I dont recall him every getting to the NFC championship. Lot of poor playoff showings under Sherman.

Here we go again, discounting wins. This rationale is so twisted, I wonder how it can be any fun to follow the team.

I'm not even going to go through the games to date and their meaning. We still have room to improve on offense (particularly in the red zone - sack count, running game, OL continuity is much improved), defense (play four quarters, don't let teams back in after a lead), and special teams (penalties, return yards given up, Crosby trust).

Think about where we were a couple of weeks ago and where we are now. Some adjustments have been made, certain phases are improving, and now we face our toughest stretch. Like I said, we can still improve and the problems are fixable. If we can just be average on special teams, look out.

As we heard all last season, the record is the only thing that counts, at least until the record no longer supports the dismal viewpoints of a certain segment of this board in which case something else will count instead.

I don't know that I agree with everything you said, but I think cautious optimism is advisable. I'm not ready to pencil us into a wild card spot just yet. As you alluded to, we still haven't felt the brunt of Kampy and Harris being out (Harris being obviously more burdensome). The game against the Ravens will be very telling.

Having said that, the team's record is better than I expected it would be at this point, but we don't have a very large margin for error.

I'd guess that 10-6 is enough for a wildcard spot, so we actually do have a bit of a margin to work from during the remainder of this season.

Where is Gregg, Lare and DaGunna anyway?

We have won 3 in a row.

No where to be seen.

Go Pack!!

When it comes to the NFL, cautious optimism is the ONLY way to go. Otherwise you run into situations like I did in the beginning of the year and your wife says if its going to be like this then I can't watch football in my house . I was riding the preseason wave and it came crashing down and I didn't deal too well. However, I don't discount records or wins regardless of who they are against. Each win gets us closer to the playoffs and that puts a smile on my face.