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John Clayton reported ,on espn 1000 in chicago, that KC will be dumping Larry Johnson. If so do we make a run for him? Not sure what he has left in the tank but i have to believe that its more that Ahman Green. Dont get me wrong i like Green just dont think theres anything left and Im not saying that Johnson will be the savior of this team. What u guys think?
I think Larry Johnson has less left in the tank than Ahman Green. The only reason LJ was still on the roster was for cap reasons. A few gay slurs later, and they're forced to cut him and take the cap hit. Yet another big name that is not a good football player anymore, and his baggage isn't worth it either.
QUOTE (VoiceofReason @ Oct 28 2009, 04:55 PM) 
I think Larry Johnson has less left in the tank than Ahman Green. The only reason LJ was still on the roster was for cap reasons. A few gay slurs later, and they're forced to cut him and take the cap hit. Yet another big name that is not a good football player anymore, and his baggage isn't worth it either.
I agree!!!
Wasnt it just one season ago when many on this board were chastising TT for not going after LJ? I can't remember if he was going to become a FA and people thought we should break the bank or if it was just a rumor that he was on the trading block and some thought he was worthy of multiple (first day) picks.
QUOTE (Lambeau5 @ Oct 28 2009, 03:37 PM)
Wasnt it just one season ago when many on this board were chastising TT for not going after LJ? I can't remember if he was going to become a FA and people thought we should break the bank or if it was just a rumor that he was on the trading block and some thought he was worthy of multiple (first day) picks.
I thought that was 2 years ago.
No thanks to LJ. His career is over. Even if it wasnt the last person I want on this team is him. He's a real jerk.
Larry Johnson only plays during a contract year, gets his contract, then tanks it. Too big of a distraction for the price both on and off the field.
QUOTE (The GM @ Oct 29 2009, 08:18 AM)
Larry Johnson only plays during a contract year, gets his contract, then tanks it. Too big of a distraction for the price both on and off the field.
Oops, just found the message from LJ: "Shuddup faggot! Or I'll shut your faggoty mouth! Faggot!"
What a class guy.
4 years ago I would have been all for a move to land LJ. But I wouldn't touch him with a 10,000 foot pole. I don't mind players playing with a BLOCK on their shoulder (like he USED to), but his poor work ethic, poor attitude and lack of production for the past 3 years, NO THANK YOU.
I am a person willing to give players second chances and even the benefit of the doubt most of the time, but not this one. He is a team cancer and a player that would do more harm than good in Green Bay.
I am a person willing to give players second chances and even the benefit of the doubt most of the time, but not this one. He is a team cancer and a player that would do more harm than good in Green Bay.
QUOTE (Arrigo @ Oct 28 2009, 08:43 PM)
4 years ago I would have been all for a move to land LJ. But I wouldn't touch him with a 10,000 foot pole. I don't mind players playing with a BLOCK on their shoulder (like he USED to), but his poor work ethic, poor attitude and lack of production for the past 3 years, NO THANK YOU.
I am a person willing to give players second chances and even the benefit of the doubt most of the time, but not this one. He is a team cancer and a player that would do more harm than good in Green Bay.
I am a person willing to give players second chances and even the benefit of the doubt most of the time, but not this one. He is a team cancer and a player that would do more harm than good in Green Bay.
4 years ago? Not just a little more than 2 years ago?
QUOTE (Arrigo @ Jul 28 2007, 12:18 AM)
The running game is the big question mark for the Packers. They have Vernand Morency and Brandon Jackson (a rookie from Nebraska picked in the 2nd round) battling it out for the starts position, with the other sure to get a lot of work as well since the Packers plan to use the "running back by committee" game plan. The thing to keep an eye on the next few weeks is disgruntled Chiefs running back Larry Johnson. He wants big money for the work load he has put in the past 2 season (and will surely put in this season with the Chiefs question marks at QB and WR) and the Chiefs do not want to pay him. The Packers are the team that could accommodate Johnson's money request and he in turn would answer the RB question mark. The Fullback position will be another battle between rookies Ryan Powdrell (USC) and Korey Hall, Brandon Miree and Corey White.
QUOTE (Arrigo @ Jul 17 2007, 10:26 AM)
The talk around Packerland is the Packers are indeed looking into trading for disgruntled Chiefs RB Larry Johnson. In order to do so they would have to first get LJ to agree on a deal (in principle) which will cost the Packers ALOT of coin. Then there is the Chiefs compensation for the 2 time pro bowl running back, who turns 28 during the upcoming season. I would suspect either a 1st and 3rd round draft choice or a 2nd round pick and a player or 2 would be enough to land him. The question then is will Packers GM Ted Thompson part with either of the scenarios for the elite RB? past history says no, but if Ted Thompson feels the Packers are close to being a title contender or even a team that can go deep into the postseason he may pull the trigger. The offense would become a dynamic one with LJ, Brett Favre, Donald Driver and Greg Jennings. Only time will tell, but the Packers have the resources (OK MONEY) to make LJ a happy man, well, if LJ can be happy (since he says he is ALWAYS angry).
QUOTE (JimATX @ Oct 28 2009, 09:09 PM)
4 years ago? Not just a little more than 2 years ago?
OK, JIM, 2 YEARS AGO. MY BAD. I still stand by what I posted.
QUOTE (JimATX @ Oct 28 2009, 11:09 PM)
4 years ago? Not just a little more than 2 years ago?
Wow, I'm not a huge Arrigo fan (I'm almost positive 100% of what he posts is totally made up), but dang you've got a little too much time on your hands. Actually finding quotes from 2 years ago on a fan forum is a bit overboard.
I remembered him posting about how Johnson (2 years ago) would be a very good fit for GB. Took less than 2 minutes with the search engine here to confirm my recollection.
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Joe - I too would be all over acquiring LJ... 4 years ago. So I guess standing by that comment your point is well stated. 2 years ago I went back and forth on Johnson coming to GB and landed on no thanks because of the cost (pick[s], $$, and player development).
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Joe - I too would be all over acquiring LJ... 4 years ago. So I guess standing by that comment your point is well stated. 2 years ago I went back and forth on Johnson coming to GB and landed on no thanks because of the cost (pick[s], $$, and player development).
I'll just say this: If I played for Kansas City, I wouldn't be running very hard, either.
I made an argument against aquiring Randy Moss because of his poor production and bad attitude in Oakland - I was clearly wrong. I would have made the same argument against Cedric Benson at the begining of last season and I would have been wrong again. Sometimes guys just need to get out of a bad situation. If the contract is low and there is not a lot of risk, I say sure why not give it a try.
I guess I'll play the Devil's Advocate. . . IMO, there's no doubt that he can be an immature punk and some of the stuff that he's done off the field has been reprehensible. . . but would it really be that bad to bring him in on a limited time, trial basis?
I don't like some of his personality flaws, but I do know that he'll run hard for the Packers for the rest of the year. The Chiefs need to cut him, and right now they're trying to make a point to their roster and keep from having to pay as much bonus money as they can. That's understandable. Larry Johnson is frustrated and malcontent. Sometimes a simple change of scenery and winning make a huge difference in an attitude adjustment (see also Mike McKenzie and Cedric Benson). If they cut him, the Chiefs are on the hook for his signing bonus and any team that claims him will need to pay him the balance of his 4.5 million salary plus weekly roster bonuses. That's approximately a 3 million dollar gamble on a talented malcontent, who they can then cut at any time without any sort of penalty.
I'm probably in the minority, but if the Chiefs cut him, I'd put in a waiver claim and give it a one-year trial. After the season is over, he can void the remainder of his contract and be an UFA to go anywhere he wants. He helps us, we help him. . . no strings attached. If we let him pass through waivers then he can sign anywhere he wants to (for probably less money) and I'd doubt that Green Bay will end up on his list of options. I guess I'm not as put off by his recent behavior as others and I can't stop thinking that this is exactly the kind of move that the Patriots have been making for years. I think that in this instance, the reward outweighs the risk. At the very least, he's the kind of running back that should help the Packers woeful short yardage game.
I don't like some of his personality flaws, but I do know that he'll run hard for the Packers for the rest of the year. The Chiefs need to cut him, and right now they're trying to make a point to their roster and keep from having to pay as much bonus money as they can. That's understandable. Larry Johnson is frustrated and malcontent. Sometimes a simple change of scenery and winning make a huge difference in an attitude adjustment (see also Mike McKenzie and Cedric Benson). If they cut him, the Chiefs are on the hook for his signing bonus and any team that claims him will need to pay him the balance of his 4.5 million salary plus weekly roster bonuses. That's approximately a 3 million dollar gamble on a talented malcontent, who they can then cut at any time without any sort of penalty.
I'm probably in the minority, but if the Chiefs cut him, I'd put in a waiver claim and give it a one-year trial. After the season is over, he can void the remainder of his contract and be an UFA to go anywhere he wants. He helps us, we help him. . . no strings attached. If we let him pass through waivers then he can sign anywhere he wants to (for probably less money) and I'd doubt that Green Bay will end up on his list of options. I guess I'm not as put off by his recent behavior as others and I can't stop thinking that this is exactly the kind of move that the Patriots have been making for years. I think that in this instance, the reward outweighs the risk. At the very least, he's the kind of running back that should help the Packers woeful short yardage game.
QUOTE (JimATX @ Oct 28 2009, 11:09 PM)
4 years ago? Not just a little more than 2 years ago?
lol owned.
I think I'd pass on this one. A RBs lifespan in the NFL these days is very short, especially for a RB who's had as many carries as he has. It appears he's wearing down. Plus I'd just have a really hard time rooting for the guy.
I can see New England picking him up and getting some production, and of course everyone becomes a saint when they go there.
I can see New England picking him up and getting some production, and of course everyone becomes a saint when they go there.
Any body up for Larry Johnson?
HELL NO.
What's wrong with posting this in the "NFL Talk" section, under... Larry Johnson? Please, at the very least, do a quick search rather than start another new thread about the same topic. Thank you.
Edit - Thanks for moving this, mods.
Edit - Thanks for moving this, mods.
I see no reason to even wonder about the guy....unless he can bulk up and man up an OL spot is about 10days.
RB aint the issue with GB right about now.
RB aint the issue with GB right about now.
QUOTE (Ellis269 @ Oct 29 2009, 07:46 AM)
I guess I'll play the Devil's Advocate. . . IMO, there's no doubt that he can be an immature punk and some of the stuff that he's done off the field has been reprehensible. . . but would it really be that bad to bring him in on a limited time, trial basis?
I don't like some of his personality flaws, but I do know that he'll run hard for the Packers for the rest of the year. The Chiefs need to cut him, and right now they're trying to make a point to their roster and keep from having to pay as much bonus money as they can. That's understandable. Larry Johnson is frustrated and malcontent. Sometimes a simple change of scenery and winning make a huge difference in an attitude adjustment (see also Mike McKenzie and Cedric Benson). If they cut him, the Chiefs are on the hook for his signing bonus and any team that claims him will need to pay him the balance of his 4.5 million salary plus weekly roster bonuses. That's approximately a 3 million dollar gamble on a talented malcontent, who they can then cut at any time without any sort of penalty.
I'm probably in the minority, but if the Chiefs cut him, I'd put in a waiver claim and give it a one-year trial. After the season is over, he can void the remainder of his contract and be an UFA to go anywhere he wants. He helps us, we help him. . . no strings attached. If we let him pass through waivers then he can sign anywhere he wants to (for probably less money) and I'd doubt that Green Bay will end up on his list of options. I guess I'm not as put off by his recent behavior as others and I can't stop thinking that this is exactly the kind of move that the Patriots have been making for years. I think that in this instance, the reward outweighs the risk. At the very least, he's the kind of running back that should help the Packers woeful short yardage game.
I don't like some of his personality flaws, but I do know that he'll run hard for the Packers for the rest of the year. The Chiefs need to cut him, and right now they're trying to make a point to their roster and keep from having to pay as much bonus money as they can. That's understandable. Larry Johnson is frustrated and malcontent. Sometimes a simple change of scenery and winning make a huge difference in an attitude adjustment (see also Mike McKenzie and Cedric Benson). If they cut him, the Chiefs are on the hook for his signing bonus and any team that claims him will need to pay him the balance of his 4.5 million salary plus weekly roster bonuses. That's approximately a 3 million dollar gamble on a talented malcontent, who they can then cut at any time without any sort of penalty.
I'm probably in the minority, but if the Chiefs cut him, I'd put in a waiver claim and give it a one-year trial. After the season is over, he can void the remainder of his contract and be an UFA to go anywhere he wants. He helps us, we help him. . . no strings attached. If we let him pass through waivers then he can sign anywhere he wants to (for probably less money) and I'd doubt that Green Bay will end up on his list of options. I guess I'm not as put off by his recent behavior as others and I can't stop thinking that this is exactly the kind of move that the Patriots have been making for years. I think that in this instance, the reward outweighs the risk. At the very least, he's the kind of running back that should help the Packers woeful short yardage game.
I would definitely give him a shot. You just grabbed someone off the scrap heap to play. I think it is worth a shot at least for this year. A lot of people cried when Rison was a Packer. I thought it was a great move at the time.
If the Packers don't have the balls to do it then I hope he goes to the Patriots and Brady can get another Super Bowl ring.
Look, I am not a big fan of him and I was not a big fan of Benson or Moss either. I agree with a previous post that if we can bring him in for 1 year and see what he has left, I for it. We have the space and if we have to dump John Kuhn to do it so be it. I want to aggressively work at improving this team. LJ could be better than Grant in the right situation...
I think that they should have claimed him off waivers and put Korey Hall on injured reserve. LJ may not have much left in the tank, but he would still offer the team a big back with the strength to break tackles and the speed to run away if there's an opening. He'd have come cheap (for one year) and is looking to prove himself and cash in this offseason. They need a more physical presence in the red zone and I think that he could have provided that for at least the rest of 2009. As it is, I don't think that there's any way that he'll sign with the Packers for less than what he was already due to make. He'll end up signing with a better, more competitive team for less money. IMO, while the guy is a jerk and a headcase off the field, he's a good teammate and not a locker-room cancer. I'd have gotten him, but it's not really Ted Thompson's style.
QUOTE (The King @ Nov 10 2009, 12:13 PM)
I would definitely give him a shot. You just grabbed someone off the scrap heap to play. I think it is worth a shot at least for this year. A lot of people cried when Rison was a Packer. I thought it was a great move at the time.
If the Packers don't have the balls to do it then I hope he goes to the Patriots and Brady can get another Super Bowl ring.
If the Packers don't have the balls to do it then I hope he goes to the Patriots and Brady can get another Super Bowl ring.
I was just going to say. watch New England pick him up.
QUOTE (Ellis269 @ Nov 11 2009, 09:44 PM)
I think that they should have claimed him off waivers and put Korey Hall on injured reserve.
The reason he went unclaimed was if you claim him you take on his contract also.
His contract for half the season was about 2.5 million plus weekly roster bonuses. I think that it would have been worth it to lock him up exclusively and ensure that he'd spend the rest of 2009 with the Green Bay Packers. They could still cut him at any time without penalty and he could also void his contract after this season and go elsewhere if he wanted to. More reward than risk IMO. As it is, I think the Bengals end up getting him and he looks good the rest of the season. Oh well.
If he was worth taking, he would have played somewhere this weekend.
Update ..he May be a Bengal soon...According to ESPN....and Michael Smith....
QUOTE (jpackman @ Nov 16 2009, 05:19 PM)
Update ..he May be a Bengal soon...According to ESPN....and Michael Smith....
Yep. Looks like it's a done deal. Just gotta pass the physical and he should be in uniform this week.
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