Man this guy is just a great Packer and Team Man.....

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/66155357.html

On Favres Return to Lambeau

'If you’re going to stand up wearing Packer clothing or a Packer uniform and cheer when Brett Favre comes out, you should bring a bag and put it over your head.'

"The reaction should be 100% about Aaron Rodgers. When Aaron Rodgers comes out there you should give Aaron Rodgers a standing ovation because he’s our guy for the next 10 years."

How to Handle Jared Allen...


And you should run the ball at Jared Allen. If you’re just going to drop back and pass, you’re playing into their hands. You have to drop back with the intention of something positive happening every time. That’s just game planning. Allen’s job is to rush the passer, that’s why they brought him there. So let’s see if he can play the run. Let’s give Lang a chance to maul him a little bit on some runs. Put the tight end over there a couple times and get a double team block on him and wear him down a bit.


I must say I agree with his statements on those two areas.....

I was just about to post this. I agree with Leroy 100%. Boo Favre. Like Butler says in the piece, "You can cheer for him when his # is retired". Atta boy, Leroy!!!


"Q. What do you think the fan reaction to Brett Favre should be at Lambeau Field this Sunday and what do you think it actually will be?

A. The reaction should be 100% about Aaron Rodgers. When Aaron Rodgers comes out there you should give Aaron Rodgers a standing ovation because he’s our guy for the next 10 years. When Brett comes out you do like any other opposing quarterback, you boo him. If you don’t want to boo him, don’t say anything. But if you’re going to stand up wearing Packer clothing or a Packer uniform and cheer when Brett Favre comes out, you should bring a bag and put it over your head. You don’t cheer for somebody to beat your team, I don’t care who it is. You don’t cheer for another quarterback. If you want to cheer Brett, just bring a bag, put it over your head and you can cheer, and no one will hear you and that’s fine. This is Aaron Rodgers’ show. Don’t let somebody come into your back yard and cheer against you. You don’t cheer for another guy to beat your team. I hope I’m crystal clear with these fans who say they love to see Brett Favre. Well, Brett Favre is gone. It’s Aaron Rodgers’ show. He’s the No. 1-rated quarterback in the NFC, including Brett Favre. I’m happy we’ll be good for the next 10 years. I hope they’ll cheer Aaron and boo Brett. If they don’t want to boo him, that’s their right. But any other quarterback they’d boo, what makes him so special? I mean, wait until he has his number retired, you can cheer him then. You can applaud him all you want. You can’t do that the day of the game, and want your team to win. That’s standing on the fence. You’re either a Packer fan or a Brett fan. If you’re a Brett fan, go buy some purple and wear purple. I have a strong feeling on this, this is my team. I played 12 years for this team. Anybody who comes into that stadium, I want them to lose. If it were me coming back, I wouldn’t expect anyone to cheer for me when I’m going to destroy your team. Of course not."

JAS.... I love it Leroy is a true Packer ...Bleeds Green and Gold... and does not mince anything on that...

I am sure he is going to get some bad e-mail for this comment:

The reaction should be 100% about Aaron Rodgers. When Aaron Rodgers comes out there you should give Aaron Rodgers a standing ovation because he’s our guy for the next 10 years.

And how can you question his integrity after the next statement:

I have a strong feeling on this, this is my team. I played 12 years for this team. Anybody who comes into that stadium, I want them to lose. If it were me coming back, I wouldn’t expect anyone to cheer for me when I’m going to destroy your team. Of course not."

I would agree when he retires for good. I just don't have the hatred and vitriol others have

Ray..Maybe Hatred is too much... But I understand... I have to agree with Butler as it has been my opinion from the start. He enters Lambeau as a Queen, sorry there is no way in Heck I am going to Cheer for Him..I do not want to give him any kind of edge in this game... I want him to know that hey Brett, we know you gave us 16 years...But Like I saw today posted on JSONLINE... Hey Brett we as fans gave you 16 years as well....

I never said I'd cheer, I think I said when his number is retired for good. I'm also not a booer, I'm confrontational if I met Brett again, I may have something to say, but that would be between him and me.

I really like Leroy, he is a great guy and a great ex-Packer. He is great to talk football with and I enjoy reading his 5 questions piece each week.

I also still like Brett Favre, but of course I won't cheer for him when he plays the Packers.

I have great respect for both as football players who love the game.

Having said that there is no litmus test for fanhood. The only QB I ever booed was Francis Abury Tarkenton and I am not about to restart that practice because Leroy says that is what everyone should do.

On the other hand, I wholeheartedly agree about the cheering for Aaron and doing everything to make it difficult for Brett to change plays and audible during the game.

I'll be at that game next Sunday... I won't boo him.... Won't cheer him either...

Just save the cheers for when he's under center.

When Favre steps on the field I will boo everytime he touches the ball I will scream for the defense to crush him. Just like I would for any other teams QB.

I think the key to Butler's comments are that if you don't want to boo Favre, then don't do anything. Be silent. Cheers for him from Packer fans is unacceptable. He's there to beat your team. On Sunday (or any other day, I'd venture) he doesn't give a crap about what Packer fans think. Why cheer for him? I'd bet he's expecting adulation from many in the stands. On Sunday he will be no different from Brady, Manning, Cutler, Orton, Romo, etc. He will be there to beat the team you follow. On the day #4 is put up in the ring of honor, I'll cheer as loud as anyone else and mean it! On Sunday, he is the enemy.

My thoughts exactly !!!!! Thank You , JASIII !! You are 100 % Spot On !!!

If Favre was playing for any other team and the fact that he went there for revenge on Ted Thompson for doing what just about any GM would have had to do in his spot, makes me want to Boo him. I'm sorry you dont become a legend on one team and then after you retire come back & play for there worst enemy and not expect some blowback. If Brett gets his so called revenge, then the revenge is not just against the GM but the fanbase as well. As you all know that a loss to the Queens is a loss to our biggest rival in the division and will put us in a precarius position to win the division. If your a fan that normally boo's the opposing team but wont boo Brett, then shame. You should be doing everything you can to support your team even if that includes booing your former idol, to throw him off his game. As Leroy says, there is time for accolades after he retires and hopefully his legacy wont include leading the Queens to a sweep of us and pushing us out of the division title. I dont think there are too many people who are going to fondly remember him if this happens. On any other day you can be a Packer fan and a Brett fan. But on game day against the Queens and especially at the Tundra you can only be one. JMO

Class

I dont see this as lacking class. The poster stated that he boo's every other QB. It would be a classless act if it were a personal attack on an individual. This particular poster is only exercising his right as a fan to try an disrupt the opposing team and support his team. That is the crux of Homefield Advantage.

Now, unfortunately others will take it to the next level of name calling and profanity laced tirades that we can all do without.

I was listening to The Fan or maybe it was WTMJ yesterday, and the hosts were pretty much pleading with the fans not to reflect badly on the team/fanbase on national television by doing something stupid like booing or displaying middle fingers. My guess is that plea will go unheard. Alcohol sales will be record breaking.

I'm with Leroy. His take on the situation is probably the best I've heard, especially as it relates to Rodgers. Leave no doubt that THIS is our guy. THIS is the guy we support. Because THIS is the guy who's wearing the Green and Gold.

Couldnt care less about Favre and his antics. Just win the game, and move on. I dont care what he says before the game or after the game. He's gone, and weve got better things to focus on. Get the "W" and dont look back.

Let the circus clown move on to the next town.

Whatever 66 Ray. Why is it no class? Ray you post nothing but poster bashing why don't you go try the ESPN boards you would fit right in.

Right or wrong, I think BF would really be mentally crushed if he got booed a Lambeau. I think his ego is fragile. Maybe I am way off, but if it caused him to have a crappy game, I am not so sure I would object.

I know it won't happen, but I would love to see the crowd just go dead silent. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like they'll introduce him by name. But it would be great to hear all the boos for all the other players and then when the PA announcer announced Favre, it would get eerily quiet.

No because you would have Viking and Favre fans cheering for him still. Thats why Packer fans need to boo.

And here's a "politically correct", empower yourself, let's show the world how "classy" we are anti-thesis from LeRoy's viewpoint. I already emailed him my response to such tripe, feel free to do the same - ghoward@journalsentinel.com

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/66230602.html

"When Brett Favre, aka No. 4, enters Lambeau Field late Sunday afternoon in his white Minnesota Vikings uniform - intent on working his magic for the purple-helmeted enemy - this is what you should do, please.Stand up in front of your seat, put your hands together and clap. And whistle. And then clap some more. Forcefully. And cheer. Loud. Louder. The loudest you have ever screamed in your life.

That's right. . . ."...

That is exactly what everyone in Lambeau should do. I really hope I don't start hearing cheers for him.

Have ushers get the seat numbers of people who do and revoke season tickets. Oh, and I get first pick since it was my idea.

There is nothing PC about a football game..It is a FIELD OF BATTLE.... We need to help the Packers win and show our support for OUR TEAM and THE PLAYERS IN GREEN AND GOLD.....

KC not sure if you meant that the fans that cheer should have the ushers escort them out, but if thats the case... I am in line after you to get the next set of seats...

My biggest problem with the cheering POV is that it would validate Brent's ridiculous assumption that the 'real' fans will still cheer for him. I'd be happy with complete silence, but as GBP4EVER points out its probably logistically impossible.

If you cheer for anyone wearing a Vikings uniform this Sunday, you're not a Packers fan. Period.

Yeah. I'm with the angry mob on this one. Torches and Pitchforks!!!

There will be a right time to give Brett the adulation he deserves. This is so obviously not that time. Brett is a Viking. And I don't cheer for Vikings. No self-respecting Packer fan would.

KILL. THE. VIKINGS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzTeLePbB08

Amen!

You know what? I could care less about what kind of image it would give to GB and it's fans if they boo, etc. How long will ANYONE care about it? 1 week? How long will the media report on fans behavior? Anything that happens, short of fans storming the field will be forgotten by the media and the rest of the country in days, if that. 1 game is not going to turn Green Bay into Philly. I hope every single Packer fan at Lambeau boo's their lungs out everytime Favre is on the field.

I read elsewhere today that Favre feels he will have support in the stands. If he gets boo'd it just may rattle him a little. THAT is homefield advantage folks, like it or not.

Those that think it'd be a good idea to cheer Favre are morons. It is not the classy thing to do. I'm not saying booing is classy either (unless you're booing a cheapshot or a fan running on the the field or something), but in some cases its neccessary. However what would be very un-classy would be cheering Brett Favre when he walks onto the field.... it would be incredibly disrespectful to Rodgers, McCarthy, Thompson and the Packers organization.... and especially Aaron Rodgers.

There are times where an opponent can be cheered... for example, when Geoff Jenkins came back to Miller Park with the Phillies (during the regular season), and I cheered for him when he was introduced. Jenkins only praised the Brewers organization and he left the organization on good terms... I was there the last game of the year in 2007 when Ned Yost pulled him out of the game in the top of the ninth AFTER the Brewers took the field simply so he could get the most rousing stand ovation I've ever been a part of - VIDEO. Geoff Jenkins may look a bit like Favre, but they're completely different circumstances. Favre did not leave the Packers on good terms, and cheering him would validate Favre's side while disrespecting the Packers.

I agree. The only thing I hope to avoid is violence in the stands. The game is a 3:15 start and some of the fans may have a few pops in them by gametime. Emotions are sure to be running high. I'm a little concerned about that.


Lot of good posts in this thread. This isn't golf. This is football and you're allowed, even encouraged to be passionate. Irrationally so, at times. What the sportswriters don't understand or appreciate is the emotions involved. They're impartial observers and only see the business side of things. They're not the ones who've been on pins and needles the last 5 years waiting...hoping that Brett will decide to return for another year. They weren't crying with him when he lost his father, or supported him and his family when a hurricane destroyed his family's home, or Deanna got sick. They weren't the ones having to make excuses for the idiotic things he's said, or for trying to be the GM, or for having sour grapes when they drafted Rodgers, or when he refused to mentor Rodgers.

Cheer him? Cheer him loudly? No sir.

While I have enjoyed watch Brett do his thing on the football field, that said, no way can I cheer Brett or any guy wearing another color uniform that playing my Packers. This is a muct win for the Packers, one that the Packers can't afford too lose-period. I rather just turn my gack on Brett when he's announced and boo. I can't cheer any player that I reconized as a great NFL player, not when they playing against the Pack...that treason! Go Rodger and Packers!

Jas... That is the Gist of this that all need to understand...By Cheering this Guy we will feed into this and give him more motivation and incentive to BEAT our TEAM.... It is not about Class...This EGO wants to be fed... and we should understand that as FANS... We cannot provide any advantage to our Teams Enemies...

When I took the Lambeau tour back in August, they said there was an unwritten rule in the pressbox that no cheering was allowed. Thats where the guy who wrote that article for the JS watches the game... he arrives at the stadium, shows his press pass to get in the "special" entrance, takes the elevator up to the pressbox, enjoys a catered buffett dinner while he watches one of the early games on one of the 25 HDTV's, takes his seat and plugs in his laptop as he starts to type away to start his gameday article. He glances out the window and sees all the fans who are somehow having a good time in the 10 degree weather and thinks how nice it is to be up there in his warm cozzy pressbox.

Boo all in Purple! I doubt he has any good feelings for anyone wearing Green in the stands. My avatar says how I feel.

Hope that fire didn't get outta control!

I think its crazy that there is even a thought to cheer Favre. Let me ask a question does anyone cheer for AP when he plays Green Bay or when Jared Allen sacks Rodgers? So why cheer for Favre who is trying to beat us?

Favre will have his time when the GB fan base will cheer him for all the good he did here..... that being 5 years after he finally retires.

Right now its pack vs. vikes. No viking should be cheered in Green Bay none. We didnt cheer Longwell or Sharper when they came to Gree Bay so why Favre?

Bulter is 100% right on this boo the heck out of Favre. And make it sooooo loud that Favre can't hear is own ego trying to lie to him about how he came back because he loves of the game. Make horrible signs saying how bad Favre is or missing spelling his name showing how much we remember him.

IF you fancy yourself a packer fan you will do anything in your power to upset or get under Favre's skin to force bad throws on sunday. If your a Brett Favre fan then cheer for the guy but remember come sunday you cant be both equally one has to be first.


Also Favre thinks he will get a warm welcome because as he believes "TRUE packer fans would understand" will I say we show him what TRUE packer fans do and thats cheer our QB Rodgers and Boo the vikings QB.

You guys are too worked up.

The Packers are not so classless that they boo opposing players before the game starts, but if that is what they decide to do that is their right.

I understand and support those who decide not to give Favre any kind of welcome, but the idea that an appreciative fan who gives Favre polite applause is not a fan is bull crap.

Fans pay for admission - they are free to boo or cheer or sit on their hands if like.

Their choice has nothing to do with their fanhood or love of the Packers.

As for ejections or violence - I guarentee you that any ejections will be those trying to infringe on others right to expression.

Some folks seem to be confusing introduction with game time - of course no one cheers opponents during the game, but polite applause at introduction is not uncommon at all for players who made contribution in the past when returning for a first time after a trade or free agency.

Brett was traded after all

Above all, we need to win this game.

The rest is just emotional garbage, and people not letting go.

I can think of one scenario where I would cheer for Favre:

Favre goes under center for the first snap of the game, then he turns around, calls a timeout, then he takes his helmet off drawing a 15 yard penalty. Favre then chucks the helmet over to the sideline, drawing another 15 yard penalty. Then he takes his jersey and shoulder pads off, revealing a t-shirts that says "I RETIRE, SO LONG YOU LOSER VIKINGS" on the front and "GO PACKERS" on the back, as he leaves the field with a big ol smirk on his face.

One question Bruce how is it "classless" to boo a rival team when they first take the field to warm up? Its to show them its going to be a long day for them. You dont have to wait for the opening kickoff.

As far as giving Favre applause, I have no problem with...... after he is retired and in the hall of fame. But while he is still a player and in that jersey I think its weird and sad for GREEN BAY fans to cheer a Viking player, even more so when the vikes are in town to beat us.

When do fans ever cheer for a rival team and players? (outside of if a victory from that rival team means good things for your team or if that team/player does something ina game to help their teams chances). When?

And the idea of a fan not being a fan if they cheer for Favre isnt "bull crap." Look im not saying dont respect the man and the vikes and what they both mean to the game and us. But the fact is if your a Packer fan you want GB to win and Minn, Chi, and Det to lose. Period. Plus you dont cheer for their players or applaud them. You can respect them, like I respect AP or Allen for what they can do but Im not going to applaud them when they are doing it against the Pack or about to. Now in a moment when one of their players does something historic you can show him and the game respect in that period of time but none of this is the case this weekend.

Its pack vs. vikes for the NFC North basically. And im sorry Favre is a man he knew what he was doing when he signed with the Vikes. Like he said its business and guess what its business for the fans too. We pay money to see GB win, an buy jerseys of players on OUR team. And if booing and making life horrible for Favre for 3 hrs could slightly improve Green Bay's chance of winning Im sure every packer fan would do it and that at classless one bit. Its fandom.

If you cheer for Favre, you're admitting that he is bigger than the Green Bay Packers. Silence is ok, but I have absolutely no problem with people boo'ing.

This is extremely emotional for fans, too. Is Brett Favre the only one that can speak out on his waffling? No... Let the fans speak out, too

Why did you boo Fran Tarkenton, Bruce?

Well I really don't bash, you seem to have a rather thin skin. All the Packers you bash, you might take your own advice. Favre was traded to the Jets, link to Packers broken by organization. He signs with queens, doesn't make me happy, But the Packers wanted him gone! careful what you wish for. This reaction is just immature and classless.
Do what you want, I'm just expressing my opinion.


So habitual poor behavior makes it ok? Home field advantage is where the fans make so much noise the oponent can't hear snap counts or audibles, which would be a good idea here. Making yourself horse booing is kinda silly, make yourself horse cheering the Packers and disrupting snap counts and audibles would be a good idea

I love all these "unwritten" and "moral" rules that people invent and try to impose on others. Stop trying to put lipstick on a pig. You're really just being self-righteous.

I wish the packer fans at the game can get together and collectively give the queen fans absolute silence. Pull out a mfin paper if you have too. I don't boo anyone on opposing teams ever. I boo my own team when they quit or they aren't giving their all. Judge me how you will.

Silence for the Vikings....total eruption for the packers. This would be more beneficial than anything else.

Have you ever gone to a game? I

It is far from customary to have large numbers of fans booing opposing team lineups during introductions, a smaller number of people do, but it is far more the case that people are either silent during other team introductions or tepid polite applause for great players. Then when the home team is introduced that is when fans go wild with enthusiasm and wind up for setting the tone for crowd noise.

Further it is not at all unusual for fans to give polite applause to returning ex-Packers - again in introductions NOT during the game.

Yes, it is BS to think or proclaim as you do here that you have the secret decoder of what constitutes being a fan. Fans come in all shapes and forms and their behavior is very diverse. And again, it seems you are failing to distinguish between introductions and during the game - two very different circumstances in my opinion.



It was personal - I felt a great deal of disdain for the man. I was also much younger. I am not sure I would do the same today - though I still think he is a pr--K.

And that's how a number of us feel about Favre.