After watching Drew Brees play today, this guy is one of the three best QB's in the NFL today I think.

So recall, SD got not just LT, but Brees in the trade for Vick.

Vick was one of the most overrated top picks in recent history. And that was before the jail term.

While LT and Brees, I believe, are serious contenders for the HOF. Either one of these guys would have outweighed Vick's value by a significant margin. But put them together, and it was a just a horrible trade.

Not as bad as the Walker trade or the Hadl trade, but pretty bad.

Ya, I was just thinking about this myself. Probably top 3 biggest rip-offs ever.

OK, I'll be the first to openly express my ignorance. What trade involved Michael Vick and the Chargers? I still remember the NY/SD trade, but I don't remember any trade between Atlanta and SD. Please enlighten me.

Do you remember when everyone said Brees had no arm and would not be a game-changer type of quarterback?

Well, I once thought the same but now I just have to eat my words. He's one of the NFL's best QB's, and he's still in his prime.

the chargers had the top pick in 2001. they traded the number 1 overall pick to the falcons for their 1st rounder (5th overall) a 3rd rounder, a 2nd in 2002 and WR Tim Dwight who was known for his return abilities and the "crack a brew/drink the ball" TD celebration.

so the trade wasn't technically for Brees, cos the Chargers drafted him at the top of round 2 with their own pick, after having used the #5 overall pick on LT.

obviously it worked out well for the Chargers, but even though Vick was overrated and a terrible person, he still played the role of a franchise type QB, he got the Falcons to the playoffs a few times, sold a lot of tickets, and kept a franchise that had been mostly irrelevant for its existence in the national spotlight.

The Walker trade was the worst ever, but I have to agree that Brees is now the best passer in the league.

The Walker trade really was the worst ever.

Pure idiocy.

The Hadl trade was probably second.

Correct, technically Brees was not part of the trade. But it allowed them to take Brees in the second round instead of Vick in the first.

Unless your a Cowboy fan....

I believe the Hadl trade (the Packers sending five draft picks for a 34-year-old QB) was definitely a terrible trade. Now, sending five draft picks for Herschel Walker, when the Vikings believed they were only a good RB away from a SB) made some sort of sense. Both players were busts on their new teams. Hadl retired; Walker returned to the Cowboys, and was still unimpressive. Which team got hosed more? I would vote the Packers got taken big time by the Chargers. And that trade, by Dan Devine (I believe) set the franchise back years.

Brees and the Saints look scary good. He's the best QB in the NFL right now.

I agree.

Well, it wasn't just five picks for Walker.

Minny ended up trading the following for Walker:

Five players

PLUS

Three first round picks
Three second round picks
A third rounder
A sixth rounder

Minny got Walker, and four picks.
Which were:

Two thirds
One fifth
One tenth.

Clearly, that was highway robbery. Eight picks and five players? I would not have given that much up for Jimmy Brown, let alone Walker.

The Hadl trade was:

Two number ones
Two number twos
A third.

I think the Walker trade was worse. It literally brought Dallas from being one of the worst teams in the NFL to being the best overall team of the nineties. And it did nothing for Minny since they never figured out how to use Walker.

Nfl has a video about the Vick, Tomlinson trade.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...k-for-Tomlinson

I think that Peyton Manning is personally. In fact, he is a bona fide all-time great QB playing right before our eyes. His attention to detail and consistency is nothing short of amazing. Brees to me is looking a lot like Kurt Warner did during the Rams heyday, not that that is bad...