Did anyone notice on that goalline run that the second Kuhn got the ball he had both arms totally covering it up and that when he got tripped up he basically just fell over and completely failed to put a hand down to try and get that extra yard?

It was like the second he got touched he just started to fall. He didnt streth or reach for the goal at all. I imagine him closing his eyes when he gets the ball, holding tight with two hands, running straightforward, and thinking, "Dont fumble please dont fumble"

Why are we handing off to a fullback ever?

Because Kuhn scored on the same play last week.

Kuhn does not get me terribly excited as a runner. I didn't like that play call. They should have let Rodgers roll out with option to run or pass....that always seems to work.

I said to my son last night when watching the replay that if he was carrying the ball higher (I think the RB term is carry 'high & tight') he would have fell with the ball in the end zone - a game of inches....literally...

I had no problem with the play and I am happy that Kuhn wrapped both arms around the ball - what would everyone say if he didn't wrap up the ball and then he fumbled.

Hey, it nearly worked!

Kuhn is a better runner at the FB position than I expected him to be. In fact, he's better at a lot of things than I expected him to be. I really thought that he'd either be cut or traded this offseason. Instead he packed up his lunchpail and went to work. He's established himself as the starter and has been a contributor on offense and on special teams. How much running ability are you expecting to get out of a FB? Based on what I've seen he's better than a lot of them out there. I'm now thinking that Korey Hall is the odd man out and is basically only on the roster as a special teams player.

Kuhn is starting because Hall is playing injured.

Hall can do more things at the position than Kuhn. But he isn't quite as big. But with his flexibility, he would have probably scored the TD.

Johnson is the guy who is probably better than both of them as a road grader and runner. But he obviously has not picked up the game as completely as the coaches want. And they thought he would get snatched up if they stashed him on the PS.

TT did not want to suffer the embarassment of drafting a FB that high and getting him snatched.

So we go with three FB's and no back up LT.

Go figure.

That was a great tackle on Kuhn plain and simple, and another one on Finley. I'd love to see some Packers do that rather than hugging the ballcarriers shoulders and getting dragged 5 yards. As far as Hall goes, he's a better receiver than Kuhn, but he's little more than useless as a run blocker.

I thought the playcalls were fine, actually. I liked all of them, in fact, though for some reason MM himself was unhappy with his own playcall on 3rd down, but there wasn't enough time on the clock to change it at the time.

Hall has never carried the ball in an NFL game. I'm guessing there's a reason for that, making me really doubt that he would have scored.

I didn't mind the call, especially on 2nd down - that play worked the previous week and a few times last year. Just a pretty good tackle and a poor effort by Kuhn.

I especially liked that one where Lee a quick out and AR hit him with that TD pass....oh, yeah.
Maybe it wasnt so special after all......

Good call Phish,
I knew there were some who realized that not every play works every time,
not every season can end in a Super Bowl victory!
Thanks for the sanity!!



Poor call though??

I vote lack of execution by the player(D.Lee).
Looked like he was open and was hit with a
(slightly low but) catchable ball.

IMO the play call was good.

Go Pack!!

Funny thing is that Lee as not the #1 option on that play

Doesn't matter IMO.

Rodgers hit an open receiver in the hands
with the football.
Should have been caught.
And hard to blame the play call.

Go Pack!!

Sure, he got in last week, but this week he didnt. That's EXACTLY the problem. A fullback dive should be able to get ONE yard a great deal more than 50% of the time. I can think of a couple 4th and 1s last year that he didnt convert on. If you're going to carry 3 fullbacks and use that playcall then it needs to be either a lot more successful or called a whole lot less so the defenses arent expecting it.

On top of that, in his career with the Pack, Kuhn has 11 carries for 16 yards - a 1.45 average. Last year on the goalline he had 3 attempts, gained 1 yard for a touchdown. The other 2 were stuffed. You're telling me a 33% conversion rate on 1 yard gains in the red zone is ok? I think not.

In contrast it's hard to find non-scramble rushing statistics for a QB, but in 2008 Rodgers in the red zone ran 11 times for 33 yards. One of which was a ten yarder. Take that out and you have 10 for 23 which is a 2.3 yard per carry average. I realize the numbers arent as contextual as they should be, but my gut is telling me that we can pick up as many yards just with the QB sneak and get rid of some of these extra players.

Rule of thumb:

If the QB gets the ball off and the receiver is open where he needs to be (past the first down marker or in the end zone, depending on the situation), it was a good playcall regardless of if the QB misses the throw or the receiver drops the ball.

Once again Kuhn fails to get in the endzone from 1/2 a yard out.

Funny that the TD to Havner came on a play action to him.