Wow..I'm kind of surprised. Now the Pack may face the Rams starting 2 guys at safety that have never started for them before..hmm

Very surprising, especially since we kept Rouse over Smith just 3 weeks ago. Makes you wonder at times if TT knows what he's doing.

Another high TT draft pick bites the dust...

Never thought that much of Rouse personally. Think it is odd that he was kept in favor of others for so long. Still now those others don't look half bad. This on the surface looks bad, but sometimes things actually have a way of working out. I remember GB having a decimated secondary some years back and they managed to pull off a huge upset against I think NE. Let's hope things work out....

I doubt we'll see many corner or safety blitzes this Sunday.

Always seemed like Rouse was a square peg in a round hole at safety. Remember he was injured when the roster was pared down to 53. He got injured again with the stinger. Never mind that he takes bad angles. Not even sure why he made it this far.

I don't mind that he's cut, but now??? We're thin at safety, so I would think we would keep him until Collins is back - never mind Bigby because that could be another month. I would rather cut Brandon Underwood (who hasn't dressed) than cut Rouse. Once Nick is back, cut Rouse and pick up someone to replace Underwood, who was a project CB anyway.

Wow. I sided with TT throught he Favre debacle but apparently, he doesn't seemed as concerned about beating the Vikings as we are. My patience is beginning to wear very thin with this man.

But what if Rouse is out with injury too. He might have come in with the stinger today and said he couldn't go.

Agree. This is just bizarre.

I thought I read somewhere that they had worked out a couple safeties, so maybe TT already is working his plan.

This guy better end up being serviceable, thats all i'm going to say for now.

This was a coaching decision make no doubt about it. Capers and McCarthy sent him packing. TT's job is to find a replacement. It was also the coaching that kept Rouse over Smith.

Don't forget we have Derrick Martin.

A lot of us have been wanting TT to dump some underperforming youngsters and hire some free agents. Here we go. There's more to this story in my opinion. I think MMs available and accountable speech is being implemented , and a message is also being sent. They could have used Rouse's stinger to put him on IR, couldn't they? The fact they didn't is interesting.

Very surprised Rouse got cut. I woulda voted Bush! lol

Also makes you wonder why it took Giordano this long to find a job. Were no other teams interested?

I think that is a good idea. Just back in March and not after the season has already started.

Don't know, but Giordano's makes a heckuva pizza down here..

yet Bush seems never in danger of getting cut. What does he need to do to get cut? Committ 5 penalties a game and give up 4-5 big plays? If thats it we should see it this week.

Hate to bring it up, but i am still upset when we cut smith. Could have used him now.

Very odd what is going on.

Even sigining this new guy, it'll take him a while to learn the system no? So basically we cut a guy and wont have is replacement until two weeks....

Rouse stunk. Stiff and lousy tackler. Absolutely stunk. That's why he's gone. Jarret Bush's tackling technique makes Rouse look pee-wee league.

Smith refused to play special teams, had an attitude, and took risks outside of the scheme. I get it that you saw him make an interception, now give it a rest. Neither Smith nor Rouse was anything but a liability on the field.

Very strange move, is Collins good to go this week. Thats the only way I see this making any sense at this point.???

Easy buddy. We all hate losing, but I'd hate to see you posting from a hospital due to a heart attack.

Apparently he practiced today. Martin could also be up to speed on the D and ready to play.

Sorry, KC Pack, I don't see anything wrong with Ex Oh post. I am getting beyond irritable with the constant talk of a player signed as a FA who did not work out.

I'm ready to see Martin. Rouse won't be missed.

Today in practice - S Nick Collins, RB Brandon Jackson and DL B.J. Raji all practiced.

Hallelujah

Maybe we can swing into the top 10 in the draft next year and land Taylor Mays

Hear hear.

Some seriously kooky personnel decisions this year. Three fullbacks, two quarterbacks. Three centers, one left tackle. Now we keep a backup safety through camp, wait for the guy in front of him to get hurt, and then cut him. Got to figure there's more to this decision than we know about just yet.....

Surprised? I'm speechless.

AMEN!!!

Surely though this Superman Smith that TT had the audacity to cut must be tearing up the league - right??? Top 10 in tackles? interceptions? passes defended?

What do you mean the second coming of Ronnie Lott since being claimed by the Rams has not made a single tackle nor defended a single pass???

You say he hasn't seen the field.

What are those boneheads in Pittsburgh, Green Bay and now St Louis thinking???

What does scheme discipline, positional relability and being able to run have to do with playing football any way???

Nope, I'm hoping for Crabtree.

Stay away from the hype Heat, Taylor Mays is the most overrated college player in the country, but thats a discussion for another thread and time.

Eric Berry is where it's at. And given what's gone on at the position--and so far with this team--we may be in a position to land him next year.

I heard our new S had 2 int's in practice

I know this doesn't have anything to do with the release of Rouse but I am hoping since Brandon Jackson is back practicing that he plays and shares time running the ball with Grant during the game.

For those that think TT made the decision on Rouse, you are just plain wrong. It will be Mike that made the final decision and then it was up to Ted to get a replacement. It was also Mike McCarthy's decision to keep Rouse over Anthony Smith at the cutdown. That is how the responsibilities get divided up. It was also Mikes decision to keep three FBs. If we are going to assign blame, at least let us put it in the right place.

I never liked the Rouse pick, and said so on this Forum immediately he was picked. I never watched tape on him, the reason I was sure he'd fail was his size. 6'4" is simply too big for a Safety, unless he has unreal change-of-direction skills, or such fantastic diagnostic skills that he can read the game so well he can get a jump on the play regularly. Rouse had neither of these skills at the level necessary to overcome coverage limitations due to his size.

Think about it, having a 6'4" Safety is a VERY attractive idea, you have the size to mess up passing lanes, cover TEs effectively, be a hammer in tackling......so why are there almost no Safeties that size in the NFL (and the few there are are more limited-responsibility, in-the-box SS types). The answer is that at that size they cannot cover well enough. That was what I said then, and what I repeat now.

It is looking like Safety and Left Tackle are day one needs at the next draft, because I don't think we can afford another obscure 'best available when we pick' choice next season (even though in the long run it works better). Of course, if the draft falls out horribly wrong, that may be impossible wothout a serious reach, but somewhere in the first three rounds we need a Safety and LT.

Eric Berry is better, but I'd still be happy with Taylor Mays at 32. Keep the faith!

Well I guess you cant read this cause i am on ignore. In no way shape or form was I trying to say he was great. From what i saw from him, he played good and better than Rouse. Seemed like he was where he needed to be in the game.

Rouse's problem was a head case issue (diagnostic skills never developed) , I like TT's gamble at the time he was drafted, but I beleved at the time that he'd be a "bust" or "something special"l- now we know!

Here's to Aaron Rouse. You played some great games and had some picks. Things didn't quite work out.

I feel alot better today than I did yesterday, unlike some of you who consider this a real head-scrather. It's not. Rouse was dead wood, folks. How he made it through second cuts is beyond me.

Now, Matt Giordano takes his place. All we ever wanted out of Rouse was to be assignment and tackle sure. He could not do these things. If Giordano can do these things, he will be successful in this system.

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Plus, Collins was practiced today. They're not just going to cut Rouse and add Matt G. if Nick wasn't ready to go. TT is not that dumb. Then again, who is the backup LT?

Oh yeah, and give me Eric Berry everyday of the week, and twice on Sunday's.

With the signing of former Colts S (and special teams ace) Matt Giordano and the cutting of Aaron Rouse, most fans are asking "what hell he is going on out there?" when it comes to the safety position.

The Packers would NOT have cut Rouse if Collins wasn't "good to go". Collins will play. I would think Martin starts over Bush at the other safety spot.

I have ALWAYS liked Giordano. He adds that tough, hard nosed, motor that never stops play to the special teams, not to mention he is a smart player. I think by the end of the year he will be a fan favorite.

BUT, this leads to another interesting question/speculation: With Martin and Giordano on the roster will Bush's time be up? All 3 are great special teams players and with Bush's penalties coming back (to hurt the Packers) will he be the "next to go" when/if the Packers add another player?

Yeah, I think many of these moves could mean that Bush is on a short leash. Slocum and McCarthy weren't pleased that he was called for a false start on two consecutive special teams plays. He was yanked after the 2nd one. He looked lost on that play. It was terrible. I'm getting tired of seeing other players get cut yet he remains on the roster. I was speechless when Thompson re-signed him. This guy is constantly screwing up on special teams. He makes tons of mistakes and I just never really seem to remember the guy making any big plays on special teams.

Hopefully he's next.

I don't care if he can out-tackle others, this guy makes bone-headed decisions all the time.



Anthony Smith was reportedly refusing to participate on special teams, so that's why they cut him. If Smith would've accepted his role, then Rouse would've been the one cut.

And I agree with Arrigo, Packers would've never cut Rouse if Collins wasn't going to play this week.

They're fed up with Rouse and they thought they saw something better in Giordano, I have no problem with it.

I don't understand how a player "refuses" to play on special teams. It's not their choice.

That's todays ahtlete's mentality. His attitude was an issue in Pittsburgh, so this isn't surprising.

You've got a choice in everything in life except death.

lol, my thoughts exactly... but seriously, mays is a BEAST!!

I don't suppose any one noticed that the Packers were gashed on the Punt Return right after Bush was pulled.

I agree that is not a penalty that can be tolerated - esp back to back. But do people understand the job the gunner faces in taking on two blockers in just getting off the line of scrimmage? You understand that being outside you can not hear the snap count and if you do not explode off the ball you do not have a chance.

Bush (and any gunner) needs to keep his head on a swivel, locate the man who is going to attack him on the line, identify the position of the double team that is coming and watch the ball being snapped and explode of the ball all transpiring in nano-seconds. The penalties were the result of Bush trying to time the snap - which most good gunners do, his miss timing falls on him though, if he cannot correctly time it he has to watch for the snap.

You have to play the game with a hair trigger - first off the ball most often wins the one to one matchups -- which was a HUGE part of Barbre's problem in game one (along with poor foot placement) in the opener. The same thing happened to College moving to the outside. Next to the center is easier to feel and time the snap - playing tackle you have to watch and try to anticipate how an explosively quick DE is going to attack, try to read, anticipate and adjust to any blitz - all the while playing on an island. College not only was a bit slow off the ball, he kept dropping his hands - something a offensive tackle in the NFL CANNOT do without paying a price for.

Agree Joe, I'm wondering if it took Bigby and Collins getting hurt and the thought of starting Rouse for the Packers to make that decision. I was never comfortable with Rouse back there, although he did play well for a few games last year. Now that Collins is apparently back (its the first thing I thought of when they cut Rouse), I think Giordano is a better football player and a upgrade and also a former teammate of Aaron Rodgers at Cal.