Mike McCarthy upon being hired spoke about the importance of establishing home dominance. To date his home record is a a dysmal 16-12.

MM recognizes this and says the right thing:

"Our fans deserve better. They came into our home and beat us, and that's not right. We need to change that around here. We were sloppy today, and that is a reflection of myself."

Time to make the action match the words Mike.

Well that's right around his overall win percentage of ~56%. Home or away I don't care just win more games.

That's going to be seriously hard to do if Cliffy misses some significant time. I just think poor Mike is officially in over his head with the O-Line debacle.

Oh, BTW, 16-12 is absolute garbage. He should be ashamed of himself, seriously.

That is accomplished by defending the house. Change 16 and 12 to 24 and 4 and you are in business, to say nothing of a NFC Championship and a trip to the Super Bowl

Hey you're preaching to the choir. I quit my job in Texas and moved to Milwaukee last year just so I could go to every home game for Rodgers first season. There is no better homefield than Green Bay, WI. We SHOULD win more there.

That being said, if somehow the Packers won 80% on the road and 50% at home I'd be happy with that. I dont care WHERE the team's at when it wins as long as it's winning. Of course it should be easier at home...

16-12 is because of fundamentals!

Well, the '08 catchphrase was "pad level" - looks like the '09 version is "funadementals."

Seriously, you quit your job? Wow, I have to show this one to my wife. She thinks I turn into a lunatic when the Packers are on. {She's not a sports fan.} Now I can prove I'm not the only one. She really hates the hollering and cursing and pillow tthrowing, and that's just the pre-game. Hey, I'm 60, I need to warm up too.

Yah, quit my job, packed my car, and drove to Milwaukee. Lived out of a hotel for a couple weeks till i found a job up there and lived the Wisconsinite lifestyle for a year. Thanks to the many scalpers I was able to attend every home game.

That is some serious Packer passion! My cheesehead hat is off to you. How did you become such a serious Packer fan living in Texas,or isn't Texas really home? You must have been as popular as a fart in church.

I agree with you. I actually like McCarthy as a peson, I want him to succeed but this is a disturbing trend along with the annual failures of the offensive line. I am not a proponent of this but should mcCarthy get canned do you suppose Capers was hired to step in for that job? Maybe he is happy being a coordinator, but if not and a new HC was to be hired and Capers was passed over, I see him gone.

Yeah, 16-12 is just BS. I wonder if that has as much to do with a lack of emotional leadership on the roster as it does with coaching. We all know how well the Packer teams of the mid-90's were at home. They had a special kind of leadership on D with Reggie and Dotson and Butler. Since 2003 Barnett has been the best the team could do.

Butler made a great point in his weekly Q&A with the MJS - that they basically let a clown like Chad Johnson call his shot. He said he would do a Lambeau Leap and they let him do it. How can that happen?

You will also like this story. I met Wayne in Kansas City before the Packers-Chefs game that year.

What was Sherman's record at home? I don't think it was any better (or much better.) I don't know what MM can do. you don't think the players know it's important to win at home? Do you really want to even hint that they should somehow try even harder at home...as opposed to road games?

You wingames because of personnel, game plan, and execution. We can question all three, but I've never understood exactly what a coach is supposed to say or do about winning at home.

It is all about attitude from the HC to the ball boy.

What does Sherman have to do with this?

Thanks for that. Good story. That's Packer passion! What's the guy like in person?

I hate to bring SHerman into this but since you brought it up, I compiled these unofficailly through wikepedia, just for reference and only includes regular season.

2000 6-2
2001 7-1
2002 8-0
2003 5-3
2004 4-4
2005 3-5

Right, so 12-12 his last three years after most of Wolf's players were gone and it was strictly Sherman's teams. My point is all coaches preach winning at home. But there's no magic phrase you say to get it done. The players want to win at home, they want to win every game wherever they play. Home field dominance comes from having a great team, and the Packers are jsut not good enough to dominate at home. No "attitude" can change that.

My dad was born in Milwaukee. So that's where it started. And I have that personality where if you make fun of me for something I do instead of coming back into the herd (like becoming a cowboys fan) I'd rather just exaggerate my difference and make it a strength. Thus my packertardedness (as my fiancee says).

But enough about me, how're we gonna fix this home field issue? Maybe having mccarthy run practices outdoors when the weather turns?

A Bengal announcing he is going to do a leap. and then doing it without any Packer stepping in to stop it tells me alot about the leadership on the field. Where was anybody when Chad started to make his path towards his leap. Knock him down, fight, 15 yrd penanlity be damned. Who is our leader on D? Nobody to step up and stop Ochacinco, and say NOT IN OUR HOUSE? No player stepped up, before or after the leap. Not one.

So then the 13-3 2007 team was a Sherman team?

Basically, I agree with you. We are just not dominating enough because we do not have a great team.

So what do you all propose that MM do more than "talk about defending the house"? Should he go play on the O-line himself that has been stocked with sub par talent the last several years? Maybe safety or even the D-line? He can only play with the hand he has been dealt. I do question some of the play calling but MM cannot do anything about the players he has to work with.