#66
Sep 17 2009, 01:02 PM
I have been waiting to see if someone else would post these observations from the game:
The Packer WRs tend to be a group on the sidelines; except James Jones.
The WRs will group up to strategize and communicate with Aaron Rodgers; except James Jones.
All of the WRs at some point walk up to Aaron Rodgers to talk; except James Jones.
Jones tends to remain at the end of the bench and communicates most with defensive players.
Aaron Rodgers does not make much effort to talk to James Jones.
Does anyone have a solid explanation for this?
PackerJB
Sep 17 2009, 01:32 PM
Jones seemed frustrated a few times during the Bears game, and I don't blame him. He was invisible. I think that may just have to do with Rodgers not finding him during the game. I'm sure they are ok.
sinatra
Sep 17 2009, 01:49 PM
Is this a recurring observation, or just something noticed during the Bears' game?
#66
Sep 17 2009, 04:32 PM
I noticed it happening throughout the Bear game. I have not specifically noticed it before.
Jones and Rodgers pretty much stopped even looking at each other on the sidelines.
eire5199
Sep 17 2009, 04:47 PM
I wasn't aware of any issue at all...I hope it's not an issue. Has anyone else noticed this? I always have to watch the games on TV, and you miss all that kind of stuff on TV.
Skyshadow
Sep 17 2009, 09:21 PM
I figure there are a couple of potential issues:
1. Rodgers doesn't "see" Jones in the progression, in which case the coaching needs to correct it.
2. Rodgers and Jones aren't comfortable. This, what are you gonna do? It's natural that some QBs and RBs are just on the same page -- Favre and Driver, Rodgers and Jennings. I want to see Jones be a weapon, but they need more time to work together.
3. Something deeper, Jones not getting free or interacting well enough. God only knows on this one.
Again though, we're only one game into Rodgers' second game as QB1. Who knows what the deal is?
Bruce
Sep 18 2009, 05:10 AM
We could speculate until the cows come home, but at this point we are not even sure that there is a problem.
If indeed this is an ongoing issue, you can bet that the coaching staff will be addressing it yesterday.
James Jones had always seemed to fit in well with the receivers group and he and Aaron have seemed to have a good connection.
Maybe something flaired up, or maybe it was a one game pout, or maybe this is something that had to do with timing of when you were looking at the situation...
I will certainly put my eyes and ears to it and see if there is anything to this - I sure hope not!!!
GBP4EVER
Sep 18 2009, 05:27 AM
Well also you have to consider that it seems Nelson has passed Jones and is the number 3. So that would make Jones the number 4. Your number 4 is not going to get a lot of balls his way. Espcially with Finely and Lee being good.
Packfan_Euro_Trash
Sep 18 2009, 05:51 AM
QUOTE (GBP4EVER @ Sep 18 2009, 07:27 PM)

Well also you have to consider that it seems Nelson has passed Jones and is the number 3. So that would make Jones the number 4. Your number 4 is not going to get a lot of balls his way. Espcially with Finely and Lee being good.
Are you basing this off of last game or something else? Everything I heard said JJ clearly outperformed Nelson in camp and is the 3rd WR.
Every year there are anomaly games, sometimes groups are in the zone, but sometimes groups are in the toilet. Let's hope the offense just had their 'off' game of the year. IMO we should not see that poor a performance out of the offense the whole season. On the flip side not saying that the D was in the zone last game, but would not expect 4 turnovers often this season.
DaveKenya
Sep 18 2009, 04:51 PM
Interesting topic and keen observation, 66. I'd also add that to me it SEEMS Jone is less involved with any of the WR TD celebrations - either on the field or back on the sidelines. Driver and Jennings do the 'jump and bump'; Nelson pats someone on the head or talks to them. I'll have to pay attention to where Jones is. Being a cheerleader isn't tested at the scouting combine, so it may not matter. On the other hand, it would play into team chemistry somehow. More to come....
Vinnie
Sep 18 2009, 06:00 PM
I think I read or heard that they would like some ST contribution from him and well....
Pugger
Sep 19 2009, 04:48 AM
I'd wait and see if this continues tomorrow. It was only one game. I don't recall this happening in preseason...
#66
Sep 19 2009, 07:13 AM
QUOTE (DaveKenya @ Sep 18 2009, 07:51 PM)

I'd also add that to me it SEEMS Jone is less involved with any of the WR TD celebrations - either on the field or back on the sidelines.
Exactly right...he is consistently separate from the other WRs as well.
JASIII
Sep 19 2009, 07:50 AM
Don't read anything into this, it's just my observation: The few interviews I've seen with Jones, he comes across differently than the other WR's. He appears to me to be a bit more egotistical and not as likable as Driver, Jennings and the rest. I don't know how many of you have ever met or been around Bill Schroeder, or heard stories about him, but that's a bit more what Jones reminds me of. Sort of cocky and egotistical. Just my observation. If the guy can catch the ball and perform, so be it. But if he's not a team player or a good locker room guy, then I could care less if he's around for long or not.
big ror
Sep 19 2009, 07:55 AM
I don't buy any of this.
Isn't Jones one of the guys constantly hanging out with Rodgers off the field?
Moreover, Jones' best friend on the team is Jennings.
I've seen many a Jones interview as well, and he doesn't come off as egotistical to me.
I think we might be making much ado out of nothing. Making some inferences over some quick camera shots probably isn't the most prudent route either.
craig
Sep 19 2009, 07:59 AM
My recall is that the winter before last season, there were reports that Rodgers and Jones were working out together and doing a good bit of throw-and-catch together. (Both being California guys.)
VA_PackFan
Sep 19 2009, 12:10 PM
QUOTE (DaveKenya @ Sep 18 2009, 05:51 PM)

Interesting topic and keen observation, 66. I'd also add that to me it SEEMS Jone is less involved with any of the WR TD celebrations - either on the field or back on the sidelines. Driver and Jennings do the 'jump and bump'; Nelson pats someone on the head or talks to them. I'll have to pay attention to where Jones is. Being a cheerleader isn't tested at the scouting combine, so it may not matter. On the other hand, it would play into team chemistry somehow. More to come....
I don't know where this is coming from. I mean, Jones running toward Jennings after he scored the GWTD in the 4th quarter.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-pl...odgers-TD-throw15 seconds in.
sunflower100
Sep 19 2009, 12:44 PM
I think some people read way too much into who hangs out with who stories. On another blog a poster tried to claim that Jennings wasn't going to get a new contract and was going to be traded to Denver (because he hated Rodgers).
Leader
Sep 20 2009, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (#66 @ Sep 18 2009, 04:02 AM)

I have been waiting to see if someone else would post these observations from the game:
The Packer WRs tend to be a group on the sidelines; except James Jones.
The WRs will group up to strategize and communicate with Aaron Rodgers; except James Jones.
All of the WRs at some point walk up to Aaron Rodgers to talk; except James Jones.
Jones tends to remain at the end of the bench and communicates most with defensive players.
Aaron Rodgers does not make much effort to talk to James Jones.
Does anyone have a solid explanation for this?
Dont know for sure, but perhaps he's gay.
Or perhaps Rodgers, Driver & Jennings are gay and dont want him hanging around.
Exactly right...he is consistently separate from the other WRs as well. He's working his TO "I'm cool and aloof" 'tude.
I don't know how many of you have ever met or been around Bill Schroeder, or heard stories about him, but that's a bit more what Jones reminds me ofJones has hands...no comparasion.
My recall is that the winter before last season, there were reports that Rodgers and Jones were working out together and doing a good bit of throw-and-catch together.No comment.
Bruce
Sep 21 2009, 09:24 AM
QUOTE (big ror @ Sep 19 2009, 10:55 AM)

I don't buy any of this.
Isn't Jones one of the guys constantly hanging out with Rodgers off the field?
Moreover, Jones' best friend on the team is Jennings.
I've seen many a Jones interview as well, and he doesn't come off as egotistical to me.
I think we might be making much ado out of nothing. Making some inferences over some quick camera shots probably isn't the most prudent route either.
I am with you ror - this is a temptest in a teapot.
All it takes is someone planting something like this out there and suddenly it will become truth - despite all of the evidence to the contrary
Kohler
Sep 21 2009, 07:25 PM
James Jones is a humble guy. I have seen Jones frustrated lately, but there is plenty of that going around. Your other points have no value because they are not true. This thread is garbage.
#66
Sep 22 2009, 09:28 AM
QUOTE (big ror @ Sep 19 2009, 10:55 AM)

I don't buy any of this.
Isn't Jones one of the guys constantly hanging out with Rodgers off the field?
Moreover, Jones' best friend on the team is Jennings.
I've seen many a Jones interview as well, and he doesn't come off as egotistical to me.
I think we might be making much ado out of nothing. Making some inferences over some quick camera shots probably isn't the most prudent route either.
Last week (CHI) I had third row seats behind the bench. My comments are not based off of a few camera shots but rather what the cameras do not show. big ror - you can choose not to buy it, and that is fine. Personally, I tend to believe my own two eyes...
I never used the word egotistical in relation to Jones. I simply posted my observations - not inferences. Sure, I may have asked others for their inferences and that is because I respect that they are around the team more often than myself (Bruce).
Bruce - I am not trying to stir anything up.
I was merely asking if anyone else had noticed something similar because I am used to seeing the WRs consistently together as a group and this was not the case against CHI. On the sidelines, Rodgers and Jones barely ever even made eye contact.
Against CIN ... I have no idea. My seats gave me no vantage point of the GB bench whatsoever...
#66
Sep 22 2009, 09:33 AM
QUOTE (Kohler @ Sep 21 2009, 10:25 PM)

Your other points have no value because they are not true.
I do not understand how you can say that my points have no value because they are not true. Were you sitting near the bench watching their interaction for 3+ hours?
It is very frustrating to be insulted for simply posting one's observations after a game and posing questions to others...
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