"Favre said Wednesday he “absolutely” would sit out this season if he’s not healthy enough to suit up as Minnesota’s quarterback. The 39-year-old also said he “may not” be able to play in all 16 regular-season games."

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/articl...1/90909148/1058

Guy is really lining up the excuses this year!

If you were a Viking player, how would you take a comment like that from your starting quarterback? especially after he successfully avoided all of training camp. Makes you wonder if he's already fighting through injuries.

Well, he's way overdue to get hurt....

Chances are a man 40 years old who didn't overly prepare for a full NFL season is at a very high risk to be injured

That being said, he'll probably play every meaningful snap for the Vikings this year

I don't know what to make of this guy anymore. He sure doesn't sound like the Brett we all knew. At this point I can't imagine WHY he didn't just stay retired!

I'm getting the distinct impression that he doesn't really know, either.

The biggest question. After everything that has happened, how can Favre or some fans fault the Packers from moving on with Rodgers. We now have a 25 year old QB who actually wants to play and is willing to attend all the offseason workouts. More and more Favre proves the Packers right for moving on. He did the same exact thing in 2009. He retired and waited until right before the season to un-retire. What can Favre possibly prove? Rodgers has already proven he is one heck of a QB. Favre simply has nothing left to offer. The Packers made the right call and I'm amazed that some people out there feel the Packers dissed Favre or feel resentment towards the Packers. You can't have a 1st round pick sitting on the bench for half a decade while an aging QB makes up his mind if he wants to play or not. It was time to move on.

Read the NFL predictions on CNNSI.com. Most people are picking him not to return next year and to have a subpar year.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/foot...tml?eref=sihpT1

WILL BRETT SHUT THE **** UP ALREADY? What is up with all the excuses before the season even begins? Good way to line up the excuses, cuz he knows he's gonna fail and the Packers are gonna kick his ass... TWICE!

old gray mare she ain't what she used to be!

I'll give you 12 million reasons why.

I read this a different way. I think he is saying that if he is hurt he is not going to fight through it like in years past. I think he understands Jackson and Rosenfahl are capable replacements and not a far cry off a injured Favre if not better.

I didn't take his comments as an excuse but a man willing to do what is best for his team even if that means sitting. That is a different Favre good or bad however I read nothing in his comments as making excuses.

Dear Brett,
Start the first two games get the consecutive start record. Then Retire before you even face the Packers. I have never rooted against you and I do not want to start.
Thank's, Lumpy

The funny thing is, this might actually happen and it would not surprise me one bit.

Just a general observation but I've noticed that public perception of Favre has really fallen through the drain. Almost nobody has respect for the guy anymore. I've gotten this feeling from reading blogs of fans throughout the nation that having nothing to do with the Packers or Vikings. Its a true shame. He will have played for 3 different teams in 3 years. If it ends on a bad note in Minny I think he will have damaged his legacy. A lot of people have lost respect for the guy. He was viewed as such a humble down to earth guy during most of his career yet turned into an indecisive old man with a serious lack of integrity at the end of it. He's simply not the Favre that we all thought we knew 10 years ago.

I know I'm going to sound like a huge Favre homer, but did any of you actually hear his press conference where he said this? I actually went back and listened to this part and he said, "if you had asked me my first year would I have finished, I would have said I may not. No one thought I would have played 18 straight years without missing a game, me included. I have no idea whats going to happen, none."

Chalk this up to Favre being Favre, and just plain talking way too much for his own good. I don't think he's any more injured than the shoulder injury, which he's probably been playing with for a couple years.

But...on a side note, he brought up the injury situation with the Jets last year and how much Mangini and co. actually knew, which is a whole 'nother can of worms.

Well, I was going to say 'c'mon guys, give it a rest' and such like and go on to talk about context and what he meant, etc, but Bob beat me to it. All credit to Bob for level headed thinking. These kinds of comments are not really indicative of a massive change in Favre at all - the change is that instead of running to the tv/radio to catch his every word, we are going more for second hand information now and latching onto out of context extracts.

Still, having said that, Strat makes an excellent point. It does seem that Favre is rambling more than I remember - it's really hard to tell, because when your perspective shifts so radically, it's nearly impossible to get a proper compartive view.

But Strat's comment about public perception was what really struck me. Indeed, Brett does seem to have changed over time, but the thing is, we have changed too - and maybe we have changed even more than Brett. I agree that his legacy is shot to hell now and that there is not much respect for him out there. I'm thinking as much of the national perception as of the Green Bay fan perception - indeed, outside of Green Bay the perception may have changed (downward) even more.

I don't care what Favre says about true fans nor, indeed, what anyone here says about how they'll remember him, or about his hall of fame entry or any of it. The fact is - at least I suspect - that he will always be remembered for being somewhat ridiculous and clownish. Sure, he'll always be remembered as a great QB too, but however much that fact may have positively coloured notions about his character in the past, he has undone it irretrievably.

For his sake, I'd almost hope he's still dense enough not to have any real concept of how people think of him. Otherwise, he could become almost embarrassed to appear in public.

Comments from a confused man. After last season when he said he was having a MRI he said he didn't know it was hurt. Now he says he was willing to sit last year because of injury? Cybil-like.

This is the part I actually found very interesting (because I agree that the rest is much ado about nothing). I only caught snippets, but it sounds like he had an MRI, they found the damage, Mangini put him in the game anyway, AND didn't put Favre on the injury report.

So...

1. How stupid of him to put Favre in the game when he was hurt.

2. Shouldn't he be in hot water for being fraudulent with the injury report? Guys like him and his mentor Bill Belichick have been making a mockery of the injury report for years. I don't know what you do now that he's with another team, but Roger Goodell could not have been happy to hear that.

Mangini takes the secrecy to a whole new level. He never announced who his QB would be this week, and he won't say who his starting center is going to be. Geez.

Oh yeah, and last year he tried to stop the Jets from playing him..... I don't believe it for a minute, I am sorry. He just cannot help himself and shut his yapper!!

He has wanted Jim Marshall's record forever and this is just proof. If he actually sits due to poor performance after the 2nd game, then he will prove it. He just cannot get enough of himself..

Now ESPN is reporting that the NFL is looking into the Jets and why Favre wasn't on the injury report last year. Way to throw another team and coaching staff under the bus Brett!!! What a class act!

Yup: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4462072

Looks like in the process of making excuses for himself, he's managed to throw another old team under the bus.

Real class act. Can't wait to see the backpedaling on this one. Baghdad Brett.



Bored at work + MSPaint.

Could be, and that's great. So tell it to your coach. Tell it to your teammates. Just don't yap to the press!

Looks like he was telling the truth

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/foot...e.ap/index.html

Yeah, I just read that over at Fanhouse, too. Still a pretty crummy move by Favre to throw his old team under the bus like that. I doubt Favre was the unwilling participant that he's portraying himself as.

I was watching ESPN over lunch and they mentioned the penalty could be between $10,000-$25,000.

Yeah, a billionaire owner is going to feel that.

Sounds like Alzhiemers.

Several years ago he got paid to practice, and played the games for free.
Now, he can't be bothered by something as trivial as training camp.

A few years ago, it wasn't his job to mentor a young QB.
Now, he's totally available anytime one of them wants help.

Last year it was inconceivable for him to even compete to be a starter in GB.
Now, he was more than willing to step aside for the good of the team.

I'm not quite sure that's fair. Favre has always been a guy who would be willing to go out onto the field, crutches and all if necessary. If his coaches wanted him to play, he'd play, period - even in a wheelchair. For fifteen years we thought that was one of his heroic characteristics (and I find no fault in that), but now we resort to sarcastic innuendo like this?

If he was injured and they knew it, it's their responsibility, be it the doctor or the coaches or whatever.

What we don't know is whether he pushed to play or not when he knew he was injured. I don't think we can make assumptions about that - this wasn't the young Brett who was frightened he'd never see the field again if he was sidelined, because that's exactly what happened to the QB he originally replaced. It's hard to know exactly what happened there - but what is obvious is what the fans are readily willing to believe, and on that front, it is we who have changed so dramatically, not Brett.

Just another leg on this crazy trail going nowhere . How hard is it to put someone on an injury report as "Arm Stiffness - Probable". It is the teams responsibility to issue a weekly injury list, not the players. That being said, why would BF bring this up now? He has been around long enough to know what the implications are of anything he says. He was indeed indicting the NYJ for a rules violation. But the question still remains why?

I think he might have been referring to Favre ratting out the Jets for keeping his injury status on the down low. They never put him on the injury report despite knowing of his fairly significant injury. The league frowns on that and some punishment is probably on the way because of Favre's loose lips.

Not that I feel sorry for the Jets in any way. But dropping the dime on his former employer could seem like a toolish thing to do. Honestly, I don't think he considered that at all. As I've said several times before, Favre rarely thinks about how his actions affect others. He views everything from a selfish point of view for the most part. His words and actions bare that out, if you go back at look at it.

"Brett Favre at 85 percent is still better than most, myself included," Clemens said."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/foot...e.ap/index.html


Nothing like confidence in yourself as QB. And this is why Marc Sanchez and not Kellen Clemens is starting for the Jets.

Just like he threw Campen under the bus last year. The guy doesn't seem to know how his actions can affect others. Why does Favre wait until now to bring up what happened with the Jets. Why bring it up at all? Somebody wasn't telling the truth. At the end of the season Favre said that something was wrong with arm but he wasn't sure. He just said that the post-season physical exam would reveal something. Now he says both he and the Jets knew all along what was wrong with his arm. Tannenbaum said that it was a joint decision between himself, Mangini, and Favre for him to keep playing. I just can't believe much of what Favre says anymore.

Exactly.

It was pretty common knowledge in Jet country that he was hurt. I don't get what all the latest hysteria is about.

I read somewhere and I'm sorry I don't have a source, that when Favre and Childress and the owner were meeting earlier this year, that the Vikings told Favre, we may ask you to end the streak and sit a few games. We need you in late Dec at full strength etc. And that Favre agreed and said something to the effect of I agree, and should have done it last year, or words to that effect. Probably read it in one of the Twin Cities papers, as I travel there. I'll try to find it.

If my numbers are right, Favre will tie Marshals streak of I believe 270 when he get under center game one against the bears. If he makes it to start game two he will own the record. I could seeing him taking a break after that.!

I could see that.

Last year, after the Jets beat the Titans, people started talking about Favre being hurt and the injury could be worse than anyone is letting on. I remember a lot about it because the guys at work were discussing the streak and if he would continue or if they would sit him.

If the Jets didn't list him as injured on their reports, that is their issue and Favre really has nothing to do with it.



I think he will go as long as he can but it will not surprise me if the Vikings have him playing 70-80% of the time and mixing in Jackson as substitue or for a "Wild Cat" style to confuse the defense. Or if they pukll him after the Vikings take a huge lead.

late edit: Just saw a Sears commercial with Brett and being indecisive and it was actually pretty funny. At least he has a sense of humor about it.

Great post sledhed, that made me laugh..

Very true, Favre's mind changes with the wind.

Yeah they are almost as good as Brunnell, Hasselback and Brooks,etc. were.

Nice try!!



Very nice!!




Favre wants the consectutive starts streak
and he wants to be the ONLY QB to beat all 32 teams.

Brett loves records!!

Of course he''d love to win a SB to shove it in TT's face,
but we all know that ain't happenin'!!!

Go Pack!!

Yes, of course Brett loves records. He denied any interest in records far too often to believe he didn't love records. Of course, everyone loves setting a record, but maybe he likes them a wee bit too much. Who knows. I went to a professor's office once when I was about 20 to ask him why he didn't XXX. We discussed it back and forth and out of the blue he said he wanted to assure me that it wasn't personal. I just said of course - it had never occurred to me. We continued to argue the point and then again, utterly unsolicited and out of context, he said it wasn't personal. I just went on with the jist of the argument, but it did strike me odd. Finally, when out of the blue for a third time he hastened to assure me that it wasn't personal, I realized that it was personal for him - very personal.

As much as I accept that it's the Jets' responsibility for not sitting Favre when he was injured, I don't doubt for a second that he wouldn't have liked the decision or that he wouldn't have lobbied to play. That's what's so disingenuous about this latest stance.

I read a blog by Rich Cimini of the NY Daily News lambasting Favre for throwing the Jets under the bus. One of the commenters to the blog summed it up pretty well, I thought. He didn't fault Favre for what happened to the team, he accepted the bad with the good, but his comments focused more on Favre's attitude (emphasis mine):


I think that says it pretty well, without actually blaming Favre for playing injured.


I would imagine so. How many millions do you think Sears paid him? I'd have a bleedin' good sense of humour in that case as well. I'd stand straight man for Don Rickles for as many days as you want for that sort of money and enjoy every minute of it.

we all know that ain't happenin' either!!!

Wasn't a report on Brett that he was hurt and specifically did not want an MRI or like. He knew there was a problem, but did not want confirmation?? I am not certain about this and it maybe someone else???

Favre's newest endorsment.

With announcers slobbering all over Favre for the whole game? It is like if they don't say Favre at least once ever minute something bad will happen.

Now we know how the rest of the world felt when he was with the Packers.

You say that as if it didn't annoy any of us then. I guess I can't speak for everyone, but it annoyed the heck out of me, even when he played for us--maybe more.

I guess after 16 years I wasn't going to let something that trivial bug me.

He played ok. The days of 400 yrd games are gone. Minnesota is gonna be a running team, obviously. Probably a good thing for him, cause Minn O Line doesnt look that good against the pass imo.

I have to admit the media lovefest was a lot easier for me to take when he was on our team. I certainly won't complain if they throw some praise Aaron Rodgers' way tonight.

The crazy thing is that Cleveland was playing the run well in the first half. They were actually hanging pretty well. I still say, stack the box and pressure on passing downs. Make Favre beat you. He may get you a few times but overall I would like the chances that he fails.

Yeah, I agree. I watched the game, and at half, I was thinking th Brown's D did a good job. Now we'll see if Favre can beat them, and bam the Vikings just ran the ball down their throat in the 2nd half.

Thing is, Petersen can still beat you if you stack the box. He proved that last year. Where Favre will really help the Vikings is not in the deep stuff, but the 3rd and 4, 3rd and 5 conversions that Tavaris Jackson couldn't consistently convert.