A.Rodgers

That was nice to watch

The Pack, lead by Aaron Rodgers, has systematically dismantled/destroyed three team's starting D and the Pack's D has been as impressive. I concede they are the real deal.

At this moment I can't think af a QB I would rather having heading my team if I were a coach. I have heard about a little smack being talked by Cutler, I think the Bears are going to get schooled this year, and I just do not see the Queens being as scary as the press is making them.

Fear the Pack!

Amazing.

I would be absolutely shocked if people seriously think TT did the wrong thing last year after seeing how things have gone. TT should have a mail box full of thank you letters.

Great quarterback or greatest quarterback?

As of right now, great. Ask again in 10 years.

Starr led us to 5 championships. Rodgers has a bit to go to be greatest ever.

otoh, I'm more than a little pissed at Favre right now, and after 1 SB I'm gonna decide Rodgers is better than Favre.

I am very excited to have a QB who actually goes through his progressions instead of just tossing the ball up for grabs.

It's been nice not to have several of those "What the hell was he thinking?" moments each game.

Like throwing while on his knees?

I think his head is what gives him an advantage. He's smart and calm and can process information really fast. I don't think that Favre has ever had that gift of processing fast. He had all-world physical skills and toughness, but I never felt he was a heady QB. He had a stubborn redneck mentality that worked for him more than it backfired. The best analogy I can think of is that Favre was the kind of guy, who when presented with a round peg and a square hole, looked for the biggest hammer he could find and pounded as hard as he could. Sometimes the peg got driven into the hole, sometimes it broke off.

I did not see the game. But this looked impressive to me.

First off, Finley looks like the real deal. I liked him and was glad TT drafted him. And I though it would take him a year to get up to speed. Looks like that was the case. A good running and receiving TE can really help your offense. We have not had one in a long time.

Second, we look to have a first class corps of WR's--four deep. Did you see Nelson's speed after the catch? DRC did not gain much on him at all. Jones looks like he is back. With those four plus Finley--man I would like to be the OC. (If we had only gotten Moss.)

Third, AR looks like he has really come into his own. From the first time I saw him at UCB I thought he would be a Pro Bowl type QB in the NFL. It looks like he will be this year. Plus, he can run. AR does not really remind me of anyone. I mean Brady can't run. Starr was accurate but AR's arm is stronger and he runs better. I guess Romo comes to mind, but I think AR is better.

I really do hope that MM and TT realize what they have here in AR. And I hope they really build a first class offense around him with imaginative game planning to bring out his utmost. I mean AR can be a fine roll out type of QB, as well as a pocket passer. He can also be a real good QB draw type of QB. And I hope they draft a first class RB soon. If you had that with AR, man what a nightmare for a DC.

They knew that before anyone else. Why do you think, unlike Childress, they didn't kiss Favre's *** when he unretired last year?

I hope you are correct.

But I still wish TT would invest more in the OL and at RB.

At RB? Aren't there A LOT of people on here arguing, hoping that the Packers keep 4 RB's on the roster? I mean, come on, not every RB is going to be an Adrian Peterson.

They knew...
A_Rodg was taking most of the snaps during practise
the last two years, before he retired....

IMO, the Vikes second team RB is better than any RB we have.

Taylor is a nice change of pace from AP but I don't see him as better than Grant. Grant is better between the tackles and they are about even in the flats. Also, Taylor will never be a 20+ carries a game guy.

The year before AP got to Minny, Taylor carried the ball 303 times.

Personally, I would take him over Grant.

Grant was fighting through injuries and poor o-line play last season. He is regularly crucified on this board for his 3.9 ypc last season on 312 carries. Now you'd rather have a 29 year old Taylor based on his 4.0 ypc performance on 303 carries three seasons ago?

I'll take Grant over Taylor all day long.

Take a look at Taylor's overall career.

Then take a look at his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield.

Sorry, I think he is the better all around back.

It really depends which Ryan Grant we get this season. I say that because the 2008 version (despite racking up a lot of yards) did not hugely resemble the 2007 version -- they were so different, in fact, it's really hard to know what to expect from Grant this year.

Taylor's one season as MIN's primary back resulted in rushing numbers very similar to what Grant posted last season. Nobody here was satisfied with that. Taylor's other 6 seasons were spent filling the role of 3rd down back. I'm not sure how that resume shows him as an upgrade over Grant at rb1.

I would agree that Taylor is better in the passing game, but I think that's to be expected of an rb who's made his career as a 3rd down back. Would I like to have Taylor in place of Jackson? Sure. In place of Grant? No thanks.

I don't like putting a lot of stock into what happens in the preseason, but Aaron Rodgers has been on the field for 62 minutes and 14 seconds through 3 games. During that time, Green Bay has outscored it's opponents 73 to 10, which is over a point a minute. That does happen to often.

First of all. Stupidest cartoon EVER. Nothing personal PackMan, but I have two girls in college (no, I won't tell your their names), and if I wanted to see Thomas The Train I would watch PBS.





I agree. You just can't say "It's just preseason" with the dominating performance the #1s have played in three straight games. Something is clicking for sure.

Maybe, but hey also have a better OL than we do. At least they have the last few years. I think that is huge when trying to compare running backs.

I think Jackson could do alright this year as a change of pace from Grant.

Taylor has been a remarkably consistent back over a long period of time, several years.

Grant had one good year so far. In fact, it was more like 2/3 of a year.

One thing missing from our offense, since Green left, is the ability to catch short passes out of the backfield and then get a good gain. Green was excellent at that. Look at how many yards Green picked up an dhow many passes he caught.

Taylor is good at that also. So as the total , consistent RB package, I would take Taylor.

Unfortunately, we didn't get any kind of a glimpse into how well the offense will handle adversity. I guess we'll find out within a few games. I think that will be a huge indicator in terms of projecting how the season could go, barring key injuries.

Clearly we disagree. Fair enough. Grant's production this season will go a long way toward determining whether my position holds any water.