This didn't take long. Article up today on ESPN. Nothing really new. but the cat's out of the bag now.

ESPN article

What else to say to that but:



I LOVE IT!

Funny sounds like almost none of the players even wanted Favre and it was all the owner and HC to do this. Go ripping the team apart. Maybe Jared Allen will go into one of his redneck rages and go after Favre.

We you not one of those that reported that the players were calling and texting Favre to come play for them.

not that I'm sad they have turmoil, as I hate the queens more than any other team and I realize hate is a strong word

I was just on my way here to post this article lol. I love it. Not a surprise at all. I guarantee you that some of those players who had to suffer through the preseason and training camp are pretty pissed at the royal treatment Favre is getting. They're thinking "I've been on this team X years, trying to get us a Super Bowl and working my butt off - this guy just walks in scott free and gets handed the keys?"

He's gonna have to get off to a fast start, or else it's gonna boil over into a hot mess. Oh man I hope his first couple games are a mess. It'll doom their season. I wish we were playing them Week 1.

I'd attribute a portion of this to ESPN creating stories. What about all the players that texted Brett 'begging' him to come and play. Suddenly there's "little support" right after he arrives? I know Jared Allen was mentioned in jest, but on watching Favre and Allen on the sideline at the game, they looked like best buddies - Allen clinging to Favre (okay, slight exaggeration) but clearly jesting and poking fun with him. And, I would venture to guess that Jared Allen is well liked and thought of by fellow Vikings...which would further minimize this "little support" bees nest ESPN is working to create. Sure, there's some acrimony, but to say "little support"? Did ESPN survey the team?

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Allen was one of the only players in favor of Favre. He was probably the player really rallying for the team to get him (in other words, he's the "player sending texts" in all the stories we read). And since the Vikings just unloaded all that money and all those draft picks to get him, and since they're a stupid organization to begin with, his desires and opinions probably carry more weight than they should.

The fact that they cite three seperate sources, all essentially saying the same thing, makes me think this report has credence. Of course, it'll all go away if the Vikings and Favre get off to a hot start. But if they stumble...oh boy.

About the texting. This was before training camp. Jared Allen was very supportive of the Vikings getting Favre but he said that it needed to happen by the start of training camp. It didn't. Of course its going to rub a lot of players the wrong way for a guy to waltz right in after training camp to fill the most important position on the team. I don't think this is ESPN fishing for a story. This was to be expected.

He never was very smart, was he?

Look, this just bring a smile from ear to ear. One thing that Childress didn't learn from last year apparently, was the importance of locker room chemistry and how it affects your team.

He is sealing his own fate in Minny. Mark my words.

I still wonder if the players were asked by managment to text Favre.

This is great. Anything to mess up the Vikings!

Hmmm. Maybe this explains why the Vikings celebrated offensive line was suddenly a revolving door in last week's preseason game.

Seriously though, how could it not rub these guys the wrong way? This guy just waltzes in and takes the job without competition, having done no offseason work, having said just weeks ago he didn't think he was up to the rigors of a 16 game schedule, having been picked up at the friggen airport by the head coach, having been handed 12 million dollars... Yeah, there's going to be some resentment there.

I remember when Favre decided to stay retired a couple weeks ago Childress said it wouldn't happen, Jared Allen said he doesn't think Favre should be allowed to come in later if he missed part of training camp, one of the DBs actually said "Tavaris Jackson is MY QB."

All the Vikings fans I've talked to on various boards said it would all be ok. These are adults who understand it's just business and will be thrilled to have a QB who gives them a chance to win. It's business all right. The business of selling tickets and jerseys. They know why he's there.

Big bad evil media spreading some more mean rumors about that Viking lockerroom.

What can we expect from a state that produces people like Jerry Lundegaard, Jean Lundegaard, and Wade Gustafson?

Oh wait... I shouldn't talk, since Wisconsin produced the guy that Leatherface and (to a lesser extent) Hannibal Lecter were loosely based on.

What a waste of text that report was.

Seriously, who the hell cares? It's getting ridiculous day-by-day that the media is just doing anything and everything in their power to keep that guys name at the top of their Web pages. I understand it gets traffic, but c'mon.

A lot of us?

Including Heat, I'd say.

Players don't decide who plays, coaches do.

Players don't decide which players to draft or sign (as Favre learned), GM's do.

The vikes play @CLE, @DET, and vs SFO the first 3 weeks. It is not unreasonable to see them at 3-0 after those 3 games. 3 wins to start the season will make everyone, and I mean everyone in the locker room fairly happy.

Really?

Why?

Why care about something that isn't even quantifiable? Favre plays for the Vikings -- sure, I can understand that, HUGE story right there.

Favre looks like crap in preseason -- again, let's talk.

But the media coming out saying that there are whispers in a locker room that Favre may or may not be the choice of certain, undisclosed players that may or may not be starters, and to an unknown degree........


really?

I think whispers of a locker room disruption for a key division rival is always good news. If this article was about Cutler and the Bears, I don't think you'd be taking this same "This is a non-story!" stance.

Gotta love it. Apparently no one from Minnesota talked to the Jets before courting this guy...

I think they are just POed Favre got his own shower and dressing room. Big babies.

Why did they need to talk to the Jets?

Everyone knows that Childress has been walking around with a ______ for Favre the last 16 months. It wouldn't of mattered if the Jets had told him that Favre was a serial killer. Brad was not going to hide his man crush for him.

Ive said it before and Ill say it again.

The football gods frown on things like this and nothing good will come of it.

Until they lose two to us. Especially if those losses are decided by interceptions.

The Jets were fairly happy for a while. We all know how that parable turned out.

Exactly. Add Favre to the Vikings typical late season meltdown and its a recipe for disaster.

The Vikings were fortunate last year. They didn't win because they were a great team - they won because they simply avoided collapsing like the Bears and Packers did. Addition by substraction or something like that.

I mean, for crying out loud, they avoided getting swept by the Packers by, what was it? One point? In their own house? Because our defense and kicker both choked like the big chokers they were all last year?

It will be another 10-6 season for Favre.

10 weeks of honeymoon, 6 weeks of heartbreak.

I agree. I have a feeling that as soon as things aren't going right in a game, Favre will throw out the game plan and take it upon himself to try and make something happen, causing turnovers to start mounting. After a couple of weeks of that and the coaching staff not being able to reign him back in, the snowball effect will already be taking place, and you would think that would carry into the locker room. All of that will be multiplied as well if Favre's arm isn't truley healed.

I guess that's why we have multiple forums so those who are interested can discuss....

You can think what you want, but I wouldn't be concerned with Cutler potentially, maybe, possibly, just could be under certain circumstances not being in favor with his teammates. Or at least some of them.

If Urlacher went on record and said, "You know what, I DID call him a pussy!" or Devin Hester punched him on the sideline, then sure, absolutely I'd be propped in front of my computer/tv with a bag of popcorn in my lap.

But if it's not concrete or quantifiable, I just can't bring myself to read what basically equates to a TMZ story of football. But hey, if that's your cup of tea, then by all means.

LUV IT LUV IT LUV IT !!

I think you're being disingenuous simply because the topic is Brett Favre. I'd venture to say that 90%+ of the reports we hear these days in sports end up being true. After all, how often in the last couple years have we heard the very same argument that you're making right now, especially in regards to Favre news? And almost every single one of those ended up being true. Multiple networks broke this story at the same time, and one of them in particular cited multiple different sources.

If the last couple years have taught you anything, it's that these insider scoops about Brett Favre have a habit of being true in the end.

Exactly. This is great.

Even if it's not true, ESPN is creating distractions. We had to put up with this crap last year.

Well now, let's remember that half the stories leaked about Favre are later found to be untrue ...




.. the half leaked by the Favre camp, that is.

Have any of you seen this?

On today's issue of SI, in the upper-left hand corner of the cover is a white-on-purple 4 with a cross through it and the phrase "100% Favre-Free Issue"

I guess we aren't the only ones sick of Favre coverage.

So now I'm a Favre apologist? Seriously, have you even read anything I've posted about him lately?

I don't care if he's Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Mark Sanchez or Jesus Christ, a report like this IMO, has ZERO cred. Fine, reports about Brett Favre's dealings in the past years have ended up accurate. But how many of those reports have been outright contradicted by another reporter from the SAME network?? (Rachel Nichols). In addition, a report came out today in a local Minnesota paper that more than 12 starters were asked if there was a, "schism" in the locker room and they all said no.

So, what am I left to do? Assume they're lying and try to make a bigger and bigger deal about it? What good is that? It's just gossip.

And I don't gossip.

I work hard, I lift weights, I can put together a computer with my bare hands, I play golf and I love cars --- but I leave the gossip for my girlfriend and sites like TMZ, People and Teen Weekly.

Now I don't know if those are your type of mags, but me? I prefer evidence or at least a smoking gun when I hear a report like this. And I've not heard, or seen either.

Look, I like pretty much anyone at this point is hoping for Brett to get lit up by the Packers. I couldn't care less about the other games. I just want the Packers (reason I'm on this site) to win every game they play.

At this point, Brett Favre is a Viking and I'll pay about as much attention to him at this point, as I did Tavaris Jackson and Gus Ferrote last year.

Late season disaster? I can see disaster brewing right out of the gate. I think he will struggle right from the start.

Let's hope so anyway!

You may not have a choice.. unless you can keep from watching ESPN or any other sports media outlet. I suspect it will be Favre all day, Favre all night.

and you didn't need to apologize. Level headed posts are more fun to read than mass hysteria and labeling.

I wouldn't be surprised either way, given he's another year older, coming off shoulder surgery, and (once again) having done absolutely no offseason preparation beyond speed-dialing Childress every 45 minutes to reassure him that he was still not sure whether he was sure about changing his mind about whether he was sure about what socks he was going to wear that day. Granted, the first 3 games look pretty cake, but he's probably more primed for a poor start than any other season in his career.

I think his mental preparedness is more suspect now than the start of any other year. It'll be interesting to see how focused he is coming out of the gate; I wouldn't be surprised if at the start of the season, his head just isn't really in it. I mean, this is a guy who said himself just a few weeks ago he's not up to doing this, that he just doesn't think he has it in him. How far removed from that point of disinterest can his state of mind be 2 weeks from now?

But even if the Vikings do get through the first 3 weeks undefeated, I think the first Green Bay game could be his Waterloo. Think about it - he's going to be coming out that night feeling he has more to prove personally than he's probably ever felt he had to prove in any game in his entire career, with the possible exception of the two Super Bowls. This is intensely personal, more so than any other game he's ever played as a pro. He's going to be putting himself under enormous pressure to not just win the game, but bury the Packers. And how does he usually play when he's that amped up? Usually by trying to throw for 3 touchdowns on every snap. The type of pressure he's going to feel that night is exactly the sort of circumstance that usually leads to his most horrendous meltdowns. I'm not making any predictions, because you just never know what to expect from this guy on any given night, but I will say that I think the conditions will be right for one of his trademark Brett Favre Bonehead Bowls. This could be a truly memorable night.

He's gone.

Talk about obsessive wishful thinking.

Adrian Peterson did an interview the same day as ESPN released its report talking about how much he admired Favre and how he was just like him -- loving to play the game.

Former Jets Head Coach talked about how much he learned from Brett and that he had no regrets about taking a shot with Favre.

Bottom line is... I don't care, he is a MN Viking. It is now the job of the Green Bay Packers to beat him twice a year.

Enough of the year round 24/7 obsessing

Stealing a bit of the post which caught my eye.....

Exactly who are the Football Gods?
You think there are more than one (?) - kinda like a Committee of Gods?
Is there a Football Gods HOF (?) - qualifed stars continually ascending to membership?

Who would be the Football God?
Bronco? Night Train? The Deamon Decon? Who could it be???

and lastly........

Will "used to be" our boy brett make the cut?

Haven't you ever heard of Mount Olympus, Leader? And it was hardly like a committee - probably more like Congress. Or maybe even more like the Knesset.

Furthermore, no one can 'ascend' to membership. It's not like a democracy, in which the common idiot can aspire to hubris levels of foolishness. Former humans do not get to become gods. And gods never were human. How they are created can be rather unique, though. Like Aphrodite springing forth out of the ocean, from the genitals of Ouranos after Chronus lopped them off. Or Athena, who burst forth from Zeus's forehead fully armed (after he'd eaten Metis, who was apparently pregnant with Athena at dinner time). Or Curly Lambeau.

However, sometimes gods mate with humans to form half-gods. Like Hercules. Or Achilles, except he was more like a quarter god really, being the offspring of a nymph and a human. Sometimes they just have affairs with humans, like Apollo and Cassandra, without producing children. He gave her a gift of prophecy, but then when she broke up with him, cursed her so that none would ever believe her. Thus she became the first football forum poster - someone with all the answers that no one else would believe. And finally, you get pretenders, who fake their origins to pretend one of their parents was a god - those are people like Harry Potter and Brett Favre. And generally anyone living in Minnesota, who prefer Norse gods because the records are harder to check.

Some humans however can aspire to being consigliori to gods, even though they're not of the blood, much like a German-Irish sort could become a consigliori to Don Corleone. Rumour has it that Vince Lombardi and Knute Rockne were recruited to be consigliori to rival gods.

And lets not forget what happened to Prometheus - he gave humans their first football which previously only gods had played with. For his punishment, he was chained to mile high stadium and each day his liver was eaten by buzzards, only to regrow at night so it could be repeated the following day. But memories fade and distort with time, such that nowadays most people think of Denver fans as vultures.

I must admit my "God background" is somewhat lacking.....so the above it enlightening indeed!

I think the first game with the Browns will be the key. Any of their 4 QBs should be able to win that game fairly easily, but if Favre is still airmailing passes...err...not on the same page as his receivers, and throws a few picks and they somehow lose that game, this molehill could turn into a mountain pretty quickly.

But as others have said, if they win, it's probably not going to be a big deal.

[quote name='Terry' post='261167' date='Aug 28 2009, 08:57 PM'
Haven't you ever heard of Mount Olympus, Leader? And it was hardly like a committee - probably more like Congress. Or maybe even more like the Knesset.

Furthermore, no one can 'ascend' to membership. It's not like a democracy, in which the common idiot can aspire to hubris levels of foolishness. Former humans do not get to become gods. And gods never were human. How they are created can be rather unique, though. Like Aphrodite springing forth out of the ocean, from the genitals of Ouranos after Chronus lopped them off. Or Athena, who burst forth from Zeus's forehead fully armed (after he'd eaten Metis, who was apparently pregnant with Athena at dinner time). Or Curly Lambeau.

However, sometimes gods mate with humans to form half-gods. Like Hercules. Or Achilles, except he was more like a quarter god really, being the offspring of a nymph and a human. Sometimes they just have affairs with humans, like Apollo and Cassandra, without producing children. He gave her a gift of prophecy, but then when she broke up with him, cursed her so that none would ever believe her. Thus she became the first football forum poster - someone with all the answers that no one else would believe. And finally, you get pretenders, who fake their origins to pretend one of their parents was a god - those are people like Harry Potter and Brett Favre. And generally anyone living in Minnesota, who prefer Norse gods because the records are harder to check.

Some humans however can aspire to being consigliori to gods, even though they're not of the blood, much like a German-Irish sort could become a consigliori to Don Corleone. Rumour has it that Vince Lombardi and Knute Rockne were recruited to be consigliori to rival gods.

And lets not forget what happened to Prometheus - he gave humans their first football which previously only gods had played with. For his punishment, he was chained to mile high stadium and each day his liver was eaten by buzzards, only to regrow at night so it could be repeated the following day. But memories fade and distort with time, such that nowadays most people think of Denver fans as vultures.[/quote]


Ha, loved it. Cassandras are ubiquitous in todays society.

An interesting question comes to mind reading this thread.

Brett has spent 16 years in lambeau throwing to guys in green, away from guys in purple. Now he comes back. When he gets into the blitz situation, throwing to the hot route without much time to react, will his brain have a problem and fall back onold habits, tossing it to the guy in green before the thinking brain has timeto catch up?

I think the Vikings are counting on Brent to fall into his old habits in that situation and throw it to the guys in purple!

he is not color blind like Vinny Testaverde

He wasn't getting text messages from Vikings players, he was getting phone calls from Riley Dieffenbach at GMAC.

I see that the Vikes cut Bobby Wade. Kind of surprising.

I don't know how I missed it, but that line should definitely have gotten the rejoinder of the month award for August!