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kyu
Keeper league. 12 teams, PPR , Big money league

My keeper is Fitz

My team.

QB
Matt Schaub
Matt Hasselbeck

RB
Gore
Jacobs
Lynch
Parker
McCoy

WR
Fitz
Jennings
Avery
Josh Morgan
Hekeem Nicks

TE
Tony Gonzalez

DEF
Packers

K
Nate Kaeding


All in all, I love this draft and feel I have a strong team with backups. Got lynch in the 8th round
adrenaline
you should go get fred jackson too to supplement lynch's 3 game absense.
kyu
Who would I drop? I have enough RBs, i just picked up Coffee and dropped nicks
ThatGuy284
Overall this is a very good team for a 12 team league.

As long as healthy Schaub is a very good QB and same with Hasselbeck, who I think is a little underrated this year.

Gore, Fitz, Jennings are all studs and Avery has some potential

The players I'd be most concerned about are Jacobs and Parker. They just don't fit the format. I play in several PPR leagues every year (15 yards rushing=1 pt. 15 yards receiving=1 pt. plus a full point/reception) and despite Jacobs' 15 TD's he finished as the 18th scoring RB in each last year. Parker is even worse because he doesn't even score the TD's. Both are big injury risks, as well, and I'd expect Jacobs' 3 games missed last year to continue. In a 12 team league Jacobs still makes a very nice #2 RB, but I'm willing to bet you could trade him or Parker (or both) for a player who better fits the format or for a player and another WR to upgrade Avery.
Vots
QUOTE (ThatGuy284 @ Aug 27 2009, 04:23 PM) *
Parker is even worse because he doesn't even score the TD's.


Well, first I'd like to say that Parker should be treated as a #3 RB right now because of his hamstring problems. So I'm not saying he's going to be a TD scorer this year.

But Parker is a TD scorer. The only way I can think that you might believe Parker isn't a TD scorer are 2 years of his when he had good goal line backs (Bettis and Davenport).

Once Bettis left and got goal line carries, he scored 13 TDs. Then PIT picked up Davenport and he got his goal line touches taken away again.

Last year he got his touches back and even though he missed quite a few games, still tied the team lead in rushing TDs with 5.

Now Parker is a big injury risk. It's really hard to imagine him lasting all season long when his hamstring is bothering him. BUT, if Parker was 100% healthy this year, he'd be a double digit TD candidate. Mendenhall isn't what the coaches thought he'd be at this point in his career and if he's destined to be good, he has another year or two to go. And that's the only guy who would threaten Parker's goal line touches, Mewelde Moore wouldn't.

So under the circumstances that Parker doesn't have a goal line back, he's definitely a TD scorer. And if he succeeds against the odds and goes all season, he'll definitely score a lot of TD's this year. But I don't see it happening.
ThatGuy284
Parker had one great year. One could make the bet he will bounce back - I will not.

In his other 786 rushing attempts in the '05, '07, '08 seasons he had 11 total TD's. He added exactly 1 TD on his 44 receptions. In '07 when he scored 2 TD's Najeh Davenport scored 5...except Najeh scored 3 of those in the last two games in which Parker didn't play. Najeh did get more touches near the endzone during the season but if he was the "goalline back" and managed only 3 TD's during the 14 games they overlapped - what does that say about either of their effectiveness?
Willie Parker did score 5 TD's last year - problem being 3 of them were in the 1st game...so he totalled exactly 2 in the remaining 10 games ... no Najeh, no Mendenhall.

For me...he's inconsistent, doesn't score with any regularity, has the injury risk and most importantly...in a PPR league he has caught 75 passes over the last 4 years...31 of those in his one good year. Now he is competing with a healthy Mendenhall (who naturally isn't where the coaches thought he'd be...he sat out nearly the entire season last year with a shattered shoulder and that tends to put one behind schedule) and a vastly superior receiver in Mewelde Moore.

Parker has more value in a standard league, much less in a PPR league. Another owner might be higher on him than should be and it's worth the consideration of a trade - especially if you can upgrade Avery (assuming you start 3 WR)
Vots
QUOTE (ThatGuy284 @ Aug 27 2009, 11:27 PM) *
Parker had one great year. One could make the bet he will bounce back - I will not.

In his other 786 rushing attempts in the '05, '07, '08 seasons he had 11 total TD's. He added exactly 1 TD on his 44 receptions. In '07 when he scored 2 TD's Najeh Davenport scored 5...except Najeh scored 3 of those in the last two games in which Parker didn't play. Najeh did get more touches near the endzone during the season but if he was the "goalline back" and managed only 3 TD's during the 14 games they overlapped - what does that say about either of their effectiveness?
Willie Parker did score 5 TD's last year - problem being 3 of them were in the 1st game...so he totalled exactly 2 in the remaining 10 games ... no Najeh, no Mendenhall.

For me...he's inconsistent, doesn't score with any regularity, has the injury risk and most importantly...in a PPR league he has caught 75 passes over the last 4 years...31 of those in his one good year. Now he is competing with a healthy Mendenhall (who naturally isn't where the coaches thought he'd be...he sat out nearly the entire season last year with a shattered shoulder and that tends to put one behind schedule) and a vastly superior receiver in Mewelde Moore.

Parker has more value in a standard league, much less in a PPR league. Another owner might be higher on him than should be and it's worth the consideration of a trade - especially if you can upgrade Avery (assuming you start 3 WR)


First, I never was debating Parker as a good PPR back. I'm not even debating if he's going to have a good fantasy season this year. Because that was one of the first things I said, saying he's a #3 back this year. And I said IF he was 100% healthy, he would be his normal self again. But I know he's not going to be healthy, that's why said IF.

Now in 2005 and 2007, he's not going to score TD's when he doesn't get goal line carries. There's nothing else to that. Now, does that mean those two years doesn't constitute a good year for him? No. He still pounded that rock before he gave it over to Bettis/Davenport. And in 2008, where he missed quite a few games, he still managed to get 5 TD's. Now, of course they're going to be spread out in an injury-plagued season. He's not going to form consistency with that type of season.

I don't care if he's not a PPR back. I don't care if he's injured right now. I don't care if he has backs behind him wanting carries. That's not my point. The point I made in which I'm repeating myself is that Parker is a TD scorer with the stipulation he doesn't have a goal line back.

Now when it comes to the 2009 season, I wouldn't draft Parker. Injuries. Mendenhall and Moore are sleepers. I don't like his situation. Now I say that so you don't think I'm trying to bill off Parker as a good back this year again. The only point I've pointed out the whole time is that he is a scorer with stipulations.

I'm not trying to point him out as a top scorer in the league. I'm not trying to point him out as a RB who'll lead the league in TD's. But when you have the ability to score about 10 TD's (hell, even 7 TD's), you're seen as a RB who can score.

But, if Parker ever wants to be a scoring RB again, he'll have to move somewhere else.
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