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GregJennings
Side 1: How can you not understand where Brett Favre is coming from

Side 2: How can you not understand where Ted Thompson is coming from

Side 1: Sarcastic one liner

Side 2: Double sarcastic one liner

Side 1: Triple sarcastic one liner

Side 2: Exaggerate ones own view to annoy side 1

Side 1: Exaggerate ones own view to annoy side 2

Side 2: name call, get's one guy banned from team

Side 1: Enjoy the ban, smile, love it

Rinse, repeat. . . . .


Ultimately it's a group that understand Brett and does not understand Ted and an equal, opposite group. Can we agree that we don't hate each other? We don't hate Brett or Ted. The bottom line is that we're all good intentioned people that see this thing differently, right?
LuvdaPack36
After you posting something like this:



It's sad, but true.

Bye Bye Brent. You somehow turned a great reputation into dirt.


I keep hoping for the day that Ted brings a Lombardi Trophy to Green Bay. When that day comes, maybe the few remaining haters will be able to tell us how his bleep tastes





I dont know if people will give you the benefit of the doubt when you say you dont hate Favre or that your intentions are good.

Just an observation...
JimATX
I don't hate Favre, but I do think he is confused/mis-informed/ignorant based on his actions the past 18 months.

GBP1
Do I hate him? I have lost an enormous amount of respect for him. And dont know that I will ever completely believe a word he says. I think he let the Vikings drag this out just so it would cause further distraction for the Packers and their fans.
66_Ray
QUOTE (JimATX @ Aug 1 2009, 09:30 AM) *
I don't hate Favre, but I do think he is confused/mis-informed/ignorant based on his actions the past 18 months.

I do not see how these fit historically

Confused, what was he confused about? Torn abot ending his career maybe, if you wish to say confued I can deal with that.

"ignorant based on his actions the past 18 months", somehow I fail to see how not saying everything that pops into your head about when your career will end is ignorant. Brett did not know when to shut up and keep it too himself, Things would have been better if he mentioned to TT he was considering it and left it at that and not done it in the press. Ignorance just doesn't fit here.

Mis-informed I can maybe buy this, rather TT and BF were not getting the meaning behind what each other was saying.
Peception plays a big factor. If I percieve your post one way and you meant it another way, than we start by misunderstanding each others intentions. I think that is what happened to TT and Brett.
philh64
QUOTE (LuvdaPack36 @ Aug 1 2009, 08:18 PM) *
After you posting something like this:



It's sad, but true.

Bye Bye Brent. You somehow turned a great reputation into dirt.


I keep hoping for the day that Ted brings a Lombardi Trophy to Green Bay. When that day comes, maybe the few remaining haters will be able to tell us how his bleep tastes





I dont know if people will give you the benefit of the doubt when you say you dont hate Favre or that your intentions are good.

Just an observation...


Beat me to it.
Packergeist
QUOTE (philh64 @ Aug 1 2009, 10:14 AM) *
Beat me to it.

I think that's GJ's point. Many things have been said, some quite hostile, on both sides. Do you consider the people who made these statements (on both sides) to be of lesser character, or just passionate (and maybe a bit overzealous) in their opinions?

If you would discount GJ's statement based on comments he's made in the past, I guess you don't agree with his premise. I do for the most part, but I also believe there are those people that argue just to argue, and aren't open to reason. But their numbers are far fewer on this forum than others I've seen.

I think there are people here that I completely disagree with on this subject that I probably would agree with just as passionately on many other subjects. Is another poster's opinion on this subject really the determining factor for you on their credibility?
Heatseeker
Who cares -- it's over.
LuvdaPack36
QUOTE (Packergeist @ Aug 3 2009, 04:30 PM) *
I think that's GJ's point. Many things have been said, some quite hostile, on both sides. Do you consider the people who made these statements (on both sides) to be of lesser character, or just passionate (and maybe a bit overzealous) in their opinions?

If you would discount GJ's statement based on comments he's made in the past, I guess you don't agree with his premise. I do for the most part, but I also believe there are those people that argue just to argue, and aren't open to reason. But their numbers are far fewer on this forum than others I've seen.

I think there are people here that I completely disagree with on this subject that I probably would agree with just as passionately on many other subjects. Is another poster's opinion on this subject really the determining factor for you on their credibility?




No I dont agree with his premise of his post. If he was someone in the past that held back from deragatory comments about Brett then it would of been fine to post something such as he did but knowing his track record makes the whole post (mostly the last part about not hating Brett and having good intentions) completely hypocritical.

strat1080
I just don't really care anymore. We got decent value for trading Favre last year which allowed us to draft Clay Matthews. Favre can do whatever he wants now. If he wants to play for the Vikings then he is the enemy, plain and simple. I will root against Favre if he dons the purple. Not likely but could still happen. Other than that he was a great QB and one of the great Packers to ever play the game. He owns nearly every Packers and NFL passing record at the moment and many of them will probably not ever be broken. An unbelievable testament to Favre's durability and year to year consistency. I won't root against Favre unless he plays for a team that is playing against the Packers.

At this point though, I don't see how anybody with a brain can say the Packers made a bad decision by moving on with Rodgers. Favre retired and flirted with unretiring a year after he did the same exact thing in 2008. In the mean time the Packers have a promising QB that posted one of the best statistical seasons as a first year starting QB in NFL history. Does Rodgers have a lot to prove still? Yes but Favre will soon be 40 and is retired at the moment. The Packers know who their starting QB and have now been able to build their team knowing that. I think one thing that is overlooked is that Rodgers hadn't played football in 3 years. I think he will start turning into more of a clutch player and pulling through in tough situations. The guy hadn't started a football game since 2004. He certainly benefitted from being able to sit on the bench but holding a notebook and taking practice reps isn't the same as being on the field against real live opponents. Rodgers will only get better with a year of starting experience under his belt.
GregJennings
I think my comments about Brent fit pretty well under the whole double sarcastic whammy thing in my original post. The whole point was that one side gives sh**, then the other side gives it back and it escalates. I think you helped prove it with my comment, actually.


Everybody is defending the side they believe most and in some cases it's showing how wrong the other side was. I don't understand Brett. I still think he's a pretty selfish guy, but I understand how people relate to him. I understand how they can see his point. So, do I hate Brent? No. Do I like how he treats others? no. Do I think he ruined his legacy? partly. Do I think Thompson is a good guy who's just doing his job? yeah.

Does it mean I have an issue with anyone who disagrees? Nope. That's the whole point. We disagree on right and wrong. We disagree on what even happened, but we can understand how the other might not see it that way so it's not a big deal. I haven't been in this subforum for a few days. After the realization that everyone just has different views and different opinions of right and wrong, I moved on. I thought I could show how what Brett did was wrong, but some people know exactly what happened and think he had a right. That's pretty much the end of the conversation. I've finally come back, out of boredom but I think there is an ultimate end to this conversation and that end is that we agree to disagree. What Brent did was wrong IMO, still is, but I understand how the other side feels and that's really the end of caring for me.
ajg
QUOTE (GregJennings @ Aug 5 2009, 06:03 PM) *
I think my comments about Brent fit pretty well under the whole double sarcastic whammy thing in my original post. The whole point was that one side gives sh**, then the other side gives it back and it escalates. I think you helped prove it with my comment, actually.


Everybody is defending the side they believe most and in some cases it's showing how wrong the other side was. I don't understand Brett. I still think he's a pretty selfish guy, but I understand how people relate to him. I understand how they can see his point. So, do I hate Brent? No. Do I like how he treats others? no. Do I think he ruined his legacy? partly. Do I think Thompson is a good guy who's just doing his job? yeah.

Does it mean I have an issue with anyone who disagrees? Nope. That's the whole point. We disagree on right and wrong. We disagree on what even happened, but we can understand how the other might not see it that way so it's not a big deal. I haven't been in this subforum for a few days. After the realization that everyone just has different views and different opinions of right and wrong, I moved on. I thought I could show how what Brett did was wrong, but some people know exactly what happened and think he had a right. That's pretty much the end of the conversation. I've finally come back, out of boredom but I think there is an ultimate end to this conversation and that end is that we agree to disagree. What Brent did was wrong IMO, still is, but I understand how the other side feels and that's really the end of caring for me.

Who is this Brent you keep speaking of??? blink.gif
LuvdaPack36
QUOTE (GregJennings @ Aug 5 2009, 08:03 PM) *
I think my comments about Brent fit pretty well under the whole double sarcastic whammy thing in my original post. The whole point was that one side gives sh**, then the other side gives it back and it escalates. I think you helped prove it with my comment, actually.


Everybody is defending the side they believe most and in some cases it's showing how wrong the other side was. I don't understand Brett. I still think he's a pretty selfish guy, but I understand how people relate to him. I understand how they can see his point. So, do I hate Brent? No. Do I like how he treats others? no. Do I think he ruined his legacy? partly. Do I think Thompson is a good guy who's just doing his job? yeah.

Does it mean I have an issue with anyone who disagrees? Nope. That's the whole point. We disagree on right and wrong. We disagree on what even happened, but we can understand how the other might not see it that way so it's not a big deal. I haven't been in this subforum for a few days. After the realization that everyone just has different views and different opinions of right and wrong, I moved on. I thought I could show how what Brett did was wrong, but some people know exactly what happened and think he had a right. That's pretty much the end of the conversation. I've finally come back, out of boredom but I think there is an ultimate end to this conversation and that end is that we agree to disagree. What Brent did was wrong IMO, still is, but I understand how the other side feels and that's really the end of caring for me.





The problem is that I wasnt defending EITHER side, just pointing out your hypocricy.
WCH
I've tried to stay out of this whole drama for the past nine months or so; but I'm going to say this:

I think that Brett Favre was probably the greatest Packer since Hutson.

I also think that TT is one of the best GM's in the game.

I don't understand why some people seem to think that you can't like both of them. blink.gif
LuvdaPack36
QUOTE (WCH @ Aug 9 2009, 10:20 AM) *
I've tried to stay out of this whole drama for the past nine months or so; but I'm going to say this:

I think that Brett Favre was probably the greatest Packer since Hutson.

I also think that TT is one of the best GM's in the game.

I don't understand why some people seem to think that you can't like both of them. blink.gif




Now stop that! Why would try and infuse any sort of sane logic or reasoning into a thread like this? wink.gif
KC Pack Fan
QUOTE (LuvdaPack36 @ Aug 9 2009, 10:23 AM) *
Now stop that! Why would try and infuse any sort of sane logic or reasoning into a thread like this? wink.gif


Exactly. I think a little time out is in order for WCH. smile.gif

Oh, and we do not argue here. We merly have a difference of opinion. tongue.gif And if you don'y like it then you can... Never mind. unsure.gif
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