As I'm sure everyone is aware of, the Legend of Lambeau will not be playing with one of our rivals this season (for now). But the speculation has been -- If a team's starter goes down, would Favre be the first player to replace him. This had me thinking, and I think you know where I'm going with this, with Rodger's "history" of injuries would you take Favre back if he were to get hurt. I would love to hear everyone's opinion. Can you forgive and forget? (considering he was almost and wanted to be a Viking) I'll start!

YES! If the news were that Rodgers would be done for the season (knock on wood) I would take Favre back with open arms. Not only would it HOPEFULLY patch things up between him and the suits in the organization, but he would be back where he belongs -- in the green and gold. He would obviously be our best answer behind Rodgers with two unproven backups as well.

Now it's your turn! What do you think?

Personally, I don't have any issue with that scenario. I just can't see it happening though. It'd be REALLY weird. For some reason I can't see TT asking Brett to come back. Even if he swallowed his pride, I don't know that Brett would say yes.

Keep moving forward.

I knew this topic would eventually surface.

Who ever said Rodgers was injury prone. He started all 16 games last season, and the injuries he did sustain were either minor, like his hammy 2 years ago and his shoulder last year, or aren't recurring like his broken foot 2 years ago.

No because he would not be in football shape not having done any practices. I don't care if he is throwing to HS every day of every week it does not equal mini or TC or practices. Also there are new plays added every year and he would need to learn them get back his timing. I am sorry you don't come off the streets and just start the next day after not playing for months.

Yes, it would make a great sense from the standpoint, if Braun or Flynn struggled mightily and a season could be lost. I would give both QBs time to grab the opportunity, while I enter into talks with Favre. If it looks like neither is ready, bring Favre back with the understanding when AR is ready to go it's his job. Remembering that a GM's job is to field the best team possible and Win! Favre could get physically ready while the youngsters play.
Aside from all the personal feeling invested by posters, bottom line is winning football games. I think TT and Favre are huge competitors and the competitiveness would unite them one final time. Besides I know I'm right

So he quit baseball and joined the Packers to be a backup QB?

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/...jury-prone.aspx

Here's a link to his comments about others calling him injury prone. Like you said he suffered a torn hammy, broken foot as a backup. Then as a starter he hurt his shoulder in Tampa Bay. When you watch season previews on any network and the question is asked "how do you think the Packers will do," the answer is usually..."depends on Rodgers staying healthy a full season."

Scott Favre said something like "he needs more time to rehab". So, his arm is not healthy. I also heard this morning on The Herd that Favre's ankles both started bothering him recently, which cemented his decision to not play.

So, I don't see how a beat up, old QB can help the Packers.

TT signing a 40-year-old, broken-down player is as unlikely as OPEC announcing it will reduce the price of oil to $5/barrel because it loves americans.

I would be very surprised if Thompson would ask Favre because of the amount of leaking to the press Favre's camp (I don't know if it's Cook, Favre's Family of Favre) has done in the past 2 years. I doubt he would risk that Circus only to have Favre say No. Just ask Jared Allen how long private messages stay private.

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What "Rodgers" are you talking about? The guy that has been the starter in Green Bay for one season and started all 16 games, or someone else? Let's all hope and pray Rodgers starts all 16 games again this year and knock off the "injury history" nonsense. I'd much rather go into December with Rodgers than a 40-year-old Favre.

Sorry, I just have to shake my head on this.

All I've heard the last few months is how Brett Favre should stay retired, how he's tarnished his reputation, how he's washed up and unable to do it anymore, how we're sick and tired of hearing all his drama.

And the day after he essentially gives us what we want, we start asking for more?

And you wonder why the media shoves All Things Favre down our throat.

No.

I would much rather see what Brohm (hopefully) or Flynn could do, if god forbid Aaron ever got hurt. And I pray he doesn't, or we'll have lunatics calling for this and expect it to happen.

Having Brett Favre come back, and have a Disney Movie ending with the Green Bay Packers borders on the delusional.

I don't even think you have to think about the ill feelings part of the equation. Unless one of the young guys was also hurt, I don't think TT would consider signing an old QB in the middle of the season. He wants to see what the young guys can do if our main guy is out and it would probably take a few games to determine if it is hopeless or not.

Aaron Rodgers. In two appearances to play for Favre -- broken foot and torn hamstring. In his first year as a starter -- sprained shoulder in week 4 that affected him all year. He didn't miss a game, but he was injured. And notice how I put history in quotations. I was trying to show how media experts believe he's injury prone. He's asked about it all the time by reporters and it pisses him off.

Anyway -- this is an open-ended topic with opinons. Ifs and Buts: just trying to add a little excitement to a slow offseason.

Ok one the foot was a freak thing a oline stepped on it. Two the hamstring was never torn. It was MM choice to hold him out Rodgers wanted to play. Also I never hear how Favre was injury prone because he got hurt like every year.

Check Favre's injury status last year and see who played better through injuries, Favre or Rodgers. Favre was affected much more than Rodgers. In his prime, Favre could play through anything and you barely noticed he had an injury. Last year - different story. It's hell getting old! Let's all hope Aaron stays healthy! It's all about the O-line.

And what do you mean by "slow offseason"? With Favre around, it's never slow!

I think he would consider bringing him in, and Brett would say yes if he did (or maybe not, or probably yes....).

I wasn't talking about the Ill feeling, which I am sure still exist on both sides. I was talking about the possibility that Thompson would call fave to gauge interest and then someone from Favre's camp would promptly turn around and leak it to Peter King or Ed Werder. If I were Ted Thompson I would be very careful about having any private conversations with Favre or Cook, I would be worried that they would leak it to make me look bad. IMO, Packer management learned a valuable lesson with the marketing deal and I would be surprised if they dealt with Favre when they are in a position of weakness. Even if Management & Favre got past the ill will, I don't think there is enough trust on either side to make an initial contact.

Well I just hope we will never have to put everyone's theories to the test. Next opening day in 2010 we can just retire his number and be done with it. The remaining question should be, will Brett now re-file his retirement papers?

I couldn't agree more. I wish we could retire his number this year but I don't think the odds of that are very high.

Me either. In fact, I think it will be a few years before Brett stands at the 50 yard line waving to a standing, cheering crowd. But when he does, I'll be there, chanting:

"MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP"

I'll be there. MVP X 3. The best ever.

I'm surprised there are people that want to do anything to support this guy. I'm ecstatic to go to Saturdays practice. It's football. I can't imagine wasting a minute of my life being at an event for him.

I understand being a Packer fan. I guess I can't understand being a Favre fan. I understand there are Favre fans, but I don't understand the thinking behind liking him.

Oh well, different strokes. There are a lot of things I can't relate to, this is just one of them that I happen to be closely involved in (being a huge Packer fan).

Ummmm, it will probably take place at halftime during a Packer game. I thought that was a given.

I am a Packer Fan, not a Favre fan but I do appreciate what he accomplished in Green Bay. He was one of the greatest players in Packer history and he did a lot to help get us out of being the Siberia of the NFL. I have been very critical of his actions since his first retirement and while I don't agree with how he handled things, I will not forget about how he played in Green Bay and what he did for the State, City & Franchise.

Back to GM's original question:

My sincere hope is that Rodgers stays healthy and has a monster year...

... however, if (god forbid) anything happened to Rodgers I would bring Brett back in a nano-second. Failure of Thompson and McCarthy to do so would be about ego and not the best interest of the football team.

Let's all hope we don't have to go there.

As for when Brett has his jersey retired... I will wildly cheer for this all-time great football player and Green Bay Packer.
He accomplished great things in Green Bay and should be honored for the totality of his work -- not just the end of his career.

This is where I don't relate. I like watching football. I love following football. It's more about the team aspect, working together to achieve a goal and all of that stuff. For me, it's about hard work paying off for people I respect.

Favre was a great football player. Saying his durability was impressive really does it no justice. His body could take a beating. His arm was incredible. He was born with a cannon. He could make every pass. Just an impressive talent. I don't really care about any of that though.

I'd take one humble, hard working Robert Ferguson who puts the team first and loves his job over three Brett Favre's. Favre was on a championship team 13 or 14 years ago. He helped that great team win. It was fun to watch, but for all Favre's talent, I just don't respect him as a person so I can't cheer for all of the negativity he stands for. I just can't put talent above what I see as right and wrong.

I really pull for the Brandon Jacksons, the Greg Jennings and the Aaron Rodgers of the team. The Brett Favres and TO's, I can handle being on my team, but I don't really care about them. I don't cheer for them. I'm happy for the guys I really believe in, not just speaking of talent. And many of you don't know me that well. I haven't liked Brett Favre, the person, for about 5 years. I've seen through him for a long time. None of this stuff the last two years surprises me. None of it has changed my opinion because I've seen/heard this selfish man for many years. I do not respect him at all. I think he's a very hurtful, selfish person.

Good posts. You actually changed my mind on this. My initial thought was if they can put it all behind them, then why not? Even an over the Favre is likely better than Brohm or Flynn. But this scenario you're describing is not only possible, but likely. We don't need that.

The scars are too deep on both ends for this to ever happen

One question and hope for an honest answer: Did you cheer for Sterling Sharpe?

Yes. I was 8 years old in 1989 and that was the best season I ever remember watching football. It was pure. All I cared about was the game. I loved Sterling Sharpe. As far as emotional attachment to a player goes, at that time I cheered for and looked up to Sterling Sharpe more than any other player in any other sport I've ever watched. When I played backyard football, I was always WR, I was "sterling sharpe"

That was my 8 year old reasoning though. I made the mistake of thinking that he was great at football, therefor he was great and I idolized him. I'm 28 years old now and just being great at football does nothing for me. I can't say I know all of the history about Sterling Sharpe, and really, I don't care because he's not topical to me. For me, he's just a memory of when football seen through a child's eyes and I do fondly remember those times even though I know he's a jerk now. In some ways I wish I could still see it that way, just about football. I'd probably love Brett Favre too. That's partly why it shocks me that adults still see football that way on this site. Bruce, in particular, seems to idolize these guys like I did when I was 8 years old. Maybe he's got that child's spirit and it's a gift, but I can't get past my adult logic far enough to love these great football players who also happen to be great jerks.

IN some ways it's sad that I can't enjoy football in the childlike way I did 20 years ago, but hey, I still have the great memories of that jerk, Sterling Sharpe, to remind me how great the act of football once was to me. I'm sure many have that of Brett Favre and that can never be taken away. I don't thank Sharpe for my memory. It was a side effect of something he did for himself. I don't owe him a thing, not even a shred of respect outside of being impressed with how he played.

Your serious right ? or is this a joke

Reason I ask is that Sharpe makes Favre look like a ambassador for Disney World compared to Sharpe in regards to "jerk" and "ego". I see football that way because I can respect the player for their abilites and what they bring to the game. Not one of us know how a $15 million dollar contract would impact us in any part of our lives. Most athletes live in a bubble and have little or no "public" life. There are many "superstars" who live such a secluded life, that most if not all of could not imagine. They are in the public eye 24/7 and each and every word they say is disected apart multiple times. Do you think any of us would be "perfect" in that situation? I have met some atheletes who appear in public as role models and model citizens but get them in private and its like a different person. And to be fair I have seen the opposite, a jerk in front of the camera but one on one a great guy. Many of them do not know how to handle the public pressure, and some do it better than others. None of us will ever know how Favre feel unless we sat down with him one on one. None of us are Dr Fraizer Cranes but there are some of us on these boards and in the media who think they are.

Interesting perspective. You sound like a media member . I can't really argue much of it. As far as playing Dr, at the very minimum, I do have knowledge of how Favre's decisions have effected other people. Whether or not he treats people badly to their face the way Sharpe reportedly did isn't really the issue. It's how his actions have effected others recently that's the main issue among most, but I guess mine is deeper than that. I've followed the Packers close the last five years. I know my views aren't concrete enough to punish the guy or anything crazy like that. My views are only powerful enough to effect my attitudes towards situations adn whatever small influence I have on the people I communicate with. I understand what you're saying, but I have my views and they are different.

Interesting, what knowledge is that? Hurting players, coaches, fans? Media member no but work in in the industry. I have had the pleasure to meet many athletes and coaches and also have had the displeasure of meeting some also if that makes sense. It has amazed me on how open and accessable some are and how some just want to be by themselves, they hate the camera. One example, some in the media and public think that Dan Marino is one of the biggest jerks who ever played the game. But one on one he really is down to earth and also easy to talk to (cannot say that about his better half ) There are others who are the opposite at least from my experience (see Wade Boggs). My point is that lets not judge what we do not know first hand

I hope they retire his number at halftime of a Vikings game. That would be really sweet!

I met Barry Bonds when he was picking up his Ferrari in Mill Valley, CA. He is a world class ass.

That is fair. I understand where you're coming from. I really think the not showing up to mini camps and all that stuff is insulting to the team that works so hard. I think some of the interceptions show a guy who's all about him. I really don't think it's right what he's done to Ted Thompson through the media. I don't like how he thinks it's OK to screw the team around year after year with whether or not he's coming back.

Did he earn the "power" to have a long leash? Sure. Should he have taken it all and then some? In my opinion of what is right and wrong? No. I think he's been stretching it for years. Some guys keep working hard and stay one of the guys. Others rise above the team and become super diva's. Maybe i'd be a diva too, I don't know for certain, but I don't have to respect or love the diva act when it's ahppening just because I understand it. I certainly don't have to cheer it on. I think it's valid to question the undying loyalty to this guy through the last few years. Why support him is my question?

You have points, good ones with interesting perspective, but none of them break my points. They're just different.

Thats easy, for 2 reasons, one I respect his ability and what he has done to help make the Packer organization thrive the for the most part since he took over at QB. He has played thru pain both mentally and physically many times since he came to GB. Many QB's are out 2-3 weeks with some of the things he has played thru. He was and is a tough SOB who played thru pain to win. He poured out his blood on gut on the field for this organization. Second, neither you, I or anyone on this board know what was going on in his mind when he was deciding to play or not. Does he have an ego sure, just like 90% of all pro athletes. Also not one person on this board knows for 100% fact what went on between Favre and Thompson. Again you say "I Think" he has been streaching it for years. I respect your opinion but again its just that, an opinion not knowing 100% what really happened. Favre should be respected and supported for what he brought to GB, tough football player who loved the game and played to win every Sunday and gave 110% on the field. More than I can say for many many pro athletes

And there we differ. You have a right to your opinion, but I disagree with it.

Whatever was going through Favre's head does not make it right to do what he's done. As adults, I believe we have personal responsibility to treat others as we would want to be treated.

I think it was best for the team to have a decision early. I think it's best for the team to have the starting QB and highest paid player at all offseason work to set an example. I believe, if you are being paid that much money that you have a responsibility not just to yourself, but to everyone you work with and everyone who's careers are on the line with yours. People get lifelong injuries in football. Quite literally, it's blood and sweat.

The wishy washy stuff, you think it's OK. I think it's an insult to the team and an example of how entitled he thinks he is that he can even get away with it. Quite frankly, it's insulting to Breno Giacomini, Ruvell Martin and everyone else who commits their everything to the same team. It's insulting to the fans that care more than he does. He has no respect for how he got that ranch he hides on or the people that have helped make his career (playres and fans). My view, you don't have to agree and you can have points of disagreement. It's my view of what I expect from a decent person (something I don't view Favre as)


I've never heard a case that makes it sound right, not from Favre, not from any supporter. He has the right to do what he did. He has reasons. In my view of right and wrong to others, just because he had the right, I don't think it was.


He played football. He made a living doing it and was really good at it. The disrespect he showed his teammates, that's what stands out the most to me. Go to the Jets. Go to the Vikings and if the Packers didn't have money to be made on his legacy, you could go to the Packers. . It's not just fans that feel this way, it's players. You don't have to, but that's what makes us different. Not right or wrong. Not proven one way or the other. Different views of right and wrong. Different expectations of people. Clearly we have different expectations. Clearly.

Not a chance I would ever want him back in gb. In fact, his number would also never be retired either. His arrogance and self centered attitude has shown the type of person he really is and he can just stay completely away.

Great post!!! I could not have stated this idea any better.

Disagree with about all of it. I think you have a tendency to interject your own agenda into things, like the statement above, without anything real substantial. Just feelings and opinion.

But like you said, it is a difference of opinion and you have every right to feel the way do.

Something soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo black and white like Favre's actions and someone has the nerve to inject his/her own opinion.

THIS POSTS are opinion with hopeful resemblance of facts to support. As to Favre, I disagree with you as does many here. I guess you cannot let anyone have a differing opinion from yours without your retort. You have stated your opinion, with or without supporting arguments. You do NOT have to continue restating your same opinion to EVERY thread on this board. Your posts are tiring. Thank GOD for ignore....

Agree completely and Greg is entitled to his own opinion.

Great post and you are pretty much echoing my thoughts. Thanks!

No Greg, it is actually quite the opposite.

I don't idolize any of these guys (including Brett Favre) and actually never did. Perhaps never having the great fall you describe allows me to not get hung up in the personal foibles or be disappointed by their human natures. Each of these guys are someone's son, brother, husband, father, uncle whose talent, dedication and competitive nature allowed them to excel to the point of becoming professional athletes - but they still put on their pants one leg at a time.

I do love the game of football and I respect what it takes to play at this level.

My respect for Brett the football player and the contributitions he made to the Packers for such a long time overshadows the fall from grace that has taken place as people watched him struggle to walk away from something he has done his whole life. It is easier for some than others, Brett was a unique competitior so his unique struggle is not shocking to me.

I don't know how to respond without getting long winded yet again. I think we just have very different experiences that have shaped our views.

For whatever reason, you relate really strongly to playing football and that is a strong, overriding factor in your thoughts. In the name of that drive, you appear to accept all actions, right or wrong, as insignificant to the big picture. The only real significance is that he loved football and that drove all else.

I understand that you feel that way, maybe you really loved playing football to the point that it's the most important thing to you. We're the same but different. Sometimes, when I see TT and MM struggle to bring the team together with all of the distraction, it gets to me. I come here and vent a little. I think your view gives an excuse and I don't agree, but I definitely understand.

I understand you a lot better and while I don't agree, just understanding makes your posts seem soooooo much more tolerable. I used to feel like you were trying to undermine people who are disappointed in Favre but now I realize that you think so highly of what he's done that it bothers you to hear negative things about him.

It's just strange how polarizing this issue is. I really care about it and for every issue that I care about, there is someone with another issue that they care about just as much that happens to conflict (the odd thing is, no two sides seem to ever be arguing the same thing. It conflicts, but in a very indirect way). Honestly, to me, we're really not that different, we're just seeing it through different glasses.

Thanks for the taking the time to really explain your views. As heated as this thing gets for me, it all seems to disappear when someone who disagrees does it respectfully.

On a 52 man roster not 100% of the players get along, it is what its is. There are some players in the league who could care less who plays next to them as long as they win and there are some who could care less if a player reports late and holds out as long as they win. There is no way of knowing if Favre insulted ANYONE in the locker room. Did some players disrespect him for what he did sure. But that happens in all locker rooms in all sports. As many who MAYBE did not respect him there were those who looked up to him and respected him for the great football player he was. What we as fans forget at times this is a job for most of these guys. They want to win championships. They want a check 2x per month. Sure there are many who love the game but would they do if for free? NO WAY When we all played the game it was for fun, for competition. Greg I do respect your opinion but it is flawed IMO. Not all players go all out 100% of the time, they take plays off. If they are dinged up they sit out so they can prolong their careers and collect checks. The one thing I will always respect with Favre is that he never took a play off, sure he made some bad throws and made bad decisions, but that was the way he played the game....and when the bell rang he ran out that tunnel. That is what sets Favre apart from most.