"With Minnesota Vikings players scheduled to report to training camp in less than a week, Brett Favre remains anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team. That decision, according to sources, has become more difficult in recent days because of the efforts of Vikings players including Adrian Peterson, Jared Allen and Steve Hutchinson, all of whom have now begun calling and texting Favre in an attempt to convince him to become Minnesota's starting quarterback."

Does this come as a surprise to anyone? Glad the Queenies are dealing with him this summer!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4350876

I said this once before, and actually said it in front of a Vikings fan who was offereing much needed aid and assistance this morning. To me, this is a no win situation for the Vikings. Suppose that this season, after hiring Favre, the Vikings manage to win the Super Bowl. So what? Always, it will have been a Packer traded and transformed and legitimate QB that led the Vikings to the SB. I will deal with the Vikings attempts at denial if that hapens. Meanwhile, Brett would end his career with a SB win. A double win for GB.

I agree, though I see their retort immediately being "well, we did it with him but you couldn't for the last 12 years".

If they don't win the SB, they have set their QB situation back to just about day 0. They have to cut someone and the one they don't will have their trust in the team and staff a little damaged.

The Vikings winning a Super Bowl is a win for Green Bay? Is there some common genetic defect in all Farvists, or is it just a common, shared stupidity?

I don't understand that theory either.

That's the funniest thing I've read since "Favre stole my girlfriend".

Favre wants to play for MN, no question. He's just wallowing in all the love he is getting from the queens' players and coaches begging him to play for them this season. BF is a person who needs to be needed. I'm beginning to think when TT and MM didn't fawn all over him after the 2007 season pleading to BF to come back he felt unloved and "retired". Not long afterwards BF hinted at playing again. The Packers were all set to announce his return but BF decided to stay retired. I'll bet he was shocked when the Packers moved on without him after he changed his mind yet again.

I had forgotten about that post.

Ed Werder has been the Favre camps golden media outlet. They give him the story, he portrays it positively. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Very common.

An article was recently written that this is "damage control" to make him look better to Packer fans. I disagree.



I would agree there is motivation other than him just naturally spilling his guts about how anguished he is. I think his motives are probably a little different. 1, his agent is trying to make the point that Brett is still wanted. He's propping Brett's ego back up. 2, they are trying to take one more stick at the Packers management, showing what they should have done to get Brett back.

The first part shows what a manipulative idiot, Bus Cook is and how fragile Favre's ego is.

The 2nd part shows how the Favre camp believes he should have been catered to.


Both, to me, are just immature and wrong.

As an agent that is his job to munipliate the press and leak stories to benefit his client

The most interesting nugget here is the Vikings star players asking Favre to play. Really shows you what they think of Tavaris and Sage.

Just My Opinion... But all of this dime-store psycho-analysis and DX of 1st Ballot Hall of Fame QB Brett Favre and his very successful agent Bus Cook is entertaining, but probably says more about those writing and posting that it actually does about Brett or Bus.

The guy is a football player, a man, a husband, a father, a son... he puts his pants on one leg at a time. He is struggling with walking away from playing football -- as I remember doing, many of you probably did, and the many others who we have witnessed doing likewise.

The funniest thing is that the people who declare they are most sickened by and tired of this are the ones who write and react the most keeping this issue (and the need/demand for this sub-forum) alive and thriving.

It's not their job, but it is what they do.

The guy has hurt a lot of people. I really believe in thinking of others and showing others the same respect you would want. I just don't see that in Favre.

Bruce, a lot of us are bothered by what Favre has done and we want to talk about it. If you don't like it, maybe you'd be best served to stop reading it. The way you complain about us not respecting Favre is really not doing any good. I still feel the same way and I still express the same opinion. In fact, your ability to wash over the things he's done makes me question the validity of a lot of your opinions. So we're on opposite sides. It does no good to sit and complain about each other but when you insult our opinions, that's going to be the natural reaction.

LOL

Sorry, but Dante Stallworth hurt people. Leonard Little hurt people. Cancer hurts people. Playing football for another team......really? really??

And showing respect? Geez man... what has Favre done to so disrespect you? His indecisiveness disrespects you? I don't get it.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/thehuddle/2009/0...-an-answer.html

Maybe he only needs another 2-3 weeks.

Profootballtalk had a rumor up this morning that Favre was in Minny to sign and they were going to have a presser this morning. Well that did not happen and PFT also says sources told them Favre was not in Minny. So basically, there is no news.....

That's PFT's specialty these days.

Actually it is there job to promote their client, we may not like it or agree with it but an agents job goes beyond negoiating the contracts

He hurt Ted Thompson when he went on the Greta show and tried to discredit an honest man.

He hurt Aaron Rodgers and all of his former teammates with the shit storms he creates and the uncertainty of direction he creates.

He hurt all of his Jets teammates by showing up despite not wanting to be there and then using them to get to the Vikings

Hurt is more than sticks and stones. I don't care what your mother told you.



He's damaged a lot of people through all of this. That is the part of Favre that I've lost all respect for.

Please there were mistakes made on BOTH sides. He hurt ALL of his Jets teammates? There were some that paraised him. He hurt ALL of his former teammates? WOW. These guys are professional athletes with jobs to do. Doutbtful he damaged many if any. There are some players in the NFL that have egos that make Favre look like a Disney spokesperson. And my life will go on if Favre retires or plays for Minny, its his decision and if he wants to play he has that right.

I have read this line all over the place for the last several months and I just don't get it. Not to pick on you "packinatl" because a whole lot of people have posted this but who is saying that he should be stopped. I have read people who say he's a jerk, people who think he is ruining his legacy, people who think he is a traitor but I have never read anyone even imply that the NFL should stop him. Why do people keep posting that he has the right to do this when no one is claiming otherwise?

We definitely have different views of right and wrong. That comes down to what's inside. I consider the treatment of others to be very important and it's not just what we have a right to do or are able to do, it's what we believe is the right thing to do. I've met many like you and many like Brett. I don't respect it. I don't cheer for it, but we're allowed to be different and I know my moral compass should not rule the world. It just rules my own line of thinking. . This isn't about what he's able to do. It's not about a right its about right and wrong. I govern my own thoughts and opinions on it and that is why I don't respect Favre (because my opinion of what he's done). Right/wrong and rules/societal obligations are very different. Brett broke no rules or obligations, he did wrong others by my view of it and he thinks it's OK by my reading of it. I really don't respect him for what he's done.

You should start a candle light vigil and start gathering donations to help all of those who Brett Favre has hurt.

He hurt me, I want reparations! Just one of his many many millions would do the trick!

If the guy wants to play football, let him play. I'm just glad we dont have to deal with his whining and circus act any longer. I dont know why so many people despise him for going to Minnesota. He'll have a 12 game honeymoon where he'll be the king of Minnesota and be on ESPN highlites every night, then come Dec- Jan he'll fold like a box down the stretch like he's done the last 11 years. Two things for Minnesota, they wont win the Super Bowl without Favre, and they wont win it with him.

IMO If I was Minnesota, Id take a serious look at Micheal Vick and see what he's got, They'll take some heat from a PR standpoint, but he'll certainly make that offense interesting, and would likely play past this year.

Why does anyone think Vick would help anyone? All he can do is run around and he has gotten hurt every year cause of it. Plus he can not throw decent to save his life. Plus he has not played in 2 years. Vick was a overrated before he went to prison and will still ve overrated to who ever signs him and lets him come back mid season after serving his suspesion and then getting in shape to play.

Dude, Its the Vikings QB situation, Blair Keel would help them at this point.

I have stayed out of and Favre topics for quite awhile Bruce , I agree with everything you say. I quite playing football in 1986 my junior year in college and I miss the hell out of it. I understand Favre's dilema . I have a son who questions the effort at times and I tell stick with it it is a lifelime of awards ahead of you.

If Favre wants to continue to play I have no problem with that. Favre has said over and over again that he wants to play at the level that he is accustomed to . That is what is scaring the hell out of him . He has doubts as he should ,he will not be the Favre of 28 but he has to come to terms with that.

He could fail but if his gut is telling him that he can still play then he should still play. Dont look back. Failure is something that Brett is not used to. It could very well be that he has to face that. He is more concerned about his legacy than the pure fact that he still wants to play. To which I add GO FOR IT.. Your legacy is already created.He will be no lesser of a great QB in my mind for doing it I will always apprcieate everything he gave us in Packerland.
How he continues to go about it is a whole different story with me. The Vikings is a sore pill for me to swallow and I will not cheer for him as a Viking.Like he cares.

If he does come back and if I was him I would forget about being a QB and go straight to PR/KR.

Blair Warner would help them at this point.

That's a fact. And that is life.

You take the good, you take the bad, you add them up. And there you have The Facts of Life.

Thanks! Now I have that song stuck in my head!

Imagine if Favre doesn't sign or if his arm can't take another season. The Vikes QB situation would be in a tailspin. It could certainly mark the end to Chilly's coaching stint there.

Whenever I get a song stuck in my head that I don't want there, I start singing "The bears Still Suck" and all is better.

My suspicion is that this favre thing will be the end of the Childress regime whether Brett comes to play for him or not. Have a down year with Favre = fired, no favre and the QB situation is messed up because of Favre controversy = fired, out in round one of the playoffs with favre = fired.

Childress has a lot of expectations coming into this season... anything less than the NFCCG and they'll be re-evaluating him at the end of the year IMO, and that's regardless of whether Favre plays for him.

Man, I just realized today is the 28th. That means today or tomorrow, right? Didn't he say, before the 30th?

He'll be back. I'm hoping that he has just enough success to get the Vikings to the Wildcard round (despite losing twice to the Packers), the new stadium built and Childress a new contract. Then he can throw 6 picks to the Packers in a showdown at cold and windy Lambeau Field and ride off into the sunset while the Packers go onto the Super Bowl. . . Then the Vikings are stuck with Childress for a few more years (ruining Adrian Peterson's chances at winning a Super Bowl himself) and in an even worse QB situation than they are right now. That would be the ideal scenario. The only thing that I'm pretty sure of is that he'll be back.

The latest:


A Brett Favre signing with the Minnesota Vikings is expected to be announced in time for the start of the team's single-game ticket sales July 20. The Vikings will play Favre's former team, the Green Bay Packers, Oct. 5 at the Metrodome on Monday night on ESPN. The Vikings are planning to require anyone buying a ticket to that game to also buy a ticket to the Aug. 21 exhibition game against the Kansas City Chiefs. Meanwhile, a little birdie heard that quarterback Brett Favre and wife Deanna last weekend made a $30,000 deposit on a condominium near 50th and France in Edina.


Looks like Brett is not anguished at all as he has every intention of signing on this Friday!

Hmmm, I heard that news about the deposit awhile ago, PackerBacker. Guess we'll see -- only a few days left after all!

That's about 3 weeks old. Note the date, it says he IS EXPECTED (Future) to sign in time for the single-game ticket sales on JULY 20 (over a week ago).

Also, the guy here you rip on all the time (GBP4Ever) started a thread on it back on July 4th.
http://www.packerchatters.com/4ums/index.php?showtopic=14901

You even commented in the thread back on July 6th.

Not sure what your point is. This was out BEFORE the reports came out that Favre was Anguished of his decision.

Yep....I need more coffee!