What a selfish jerk. Says he will let them know by the day before camp opens. He can't let them know now? There are a lot of selfish players in sports but I think Favre takes the cake.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/50857552.html

Maybe not. Could there be a chance money and contract is an issue?

I heard the contract is done. I heard it will be like 5-6 million and loaded with incentives that can boost it to the 13 million he would have made under his old contract.

Or it could be an injury issue " as the stomach turns so do the days of our Favre"

get a grip GFBP4EVER life does not happened as you want it too every-time, nor does everyone live up to your classy value system

So did you speak to Brett or Mr Cook? Who is your source on that

That may be true... but, I'm certain the Vikes already know that he is coming. My guess is he only wants to do 1 PC. Announce it now or anytime before the 1st day of camp and he'll be hounded by ESPN and the like. Wait until the first day of camp and he talks once and then he can hide behind the "it is TC and I am here to work". As much as he likes the spot-light, I don't think he wants to be answering a bunch of questions on what motivated him to play again and only for the Vikes. With his press releases to Werder et al he controls the message more. At a PC in front of a lot of reporters and he'll sound like Rosenhaus, "Next question please".

Yeah I guess a classy value system is actually making up your mind in a timely manner.

An article that i read. But then again that was a unnamed source and people today wont belive them until it comes from the horses mouth.

of course timely is your timetable, sounding selfish there, just a wee bit

I think most people consider not waiting to the last mintue a good idea. Don't know I was rasied that is someone asked you something you either let them know right away or soon there after not right before said event.

I actually believe that a part of the delay is doubt by Favre about how his arm will hold up. I think he wants to give it every last day possible to heal and rehab before he truly decides. I think he absolutely believes in the "Ironman" label and doesn't want to not finish the season.

I still think he's a selfish jerk though.....

He said he'll let them know BY then, not necessarily ON that date. People are blowing this way out of context.

True for pretty much all things Favre.

I'd have to go with a heaping helping of wanting to make sure the arm is okay, and a pinch or two of
only one PC. But I'm not aware of anything for sure. ...and no, I'm not Bus Cook.

I agree with you about his arm. You have to wonder if his arm will survive throwing all of the passes twice a day in TC. Since he is new to the team, he has to get him timing down with all of his new receivers. His arm has to strong enough to go through all of the practice during the regular season.

I remember Brett was worried about his daughter having to change schools every January. She has been to schools in Green Bay, New Jersey and possibly Minn the last 3 years.

That's a good theory. It makes sense, and keeping everyone from the truth as long as possible is right in their wheelhouse.

STILL dont care.

I think you are right. Both parties probably know he is coming, but 1 media circus the day he shows is better than having the reporters camp in Minnysota until the day Favre arrives.

"Favre has been working out in a high school near his home in Hattiesburg, Miss. He's been doing that on a three-day-a-week schedule, but added a Sunday workout, he said."
I know throwing to HS kids is not the same, but if he has been doing it 3x per week and added a Sunday workout, he knows how the arm is doing.

All this does is prove the Packers made the right call to move on with Rodgers. There is no reason to let a nearly 40 year old QB push the organization around every single offseason when you have a talent like Rodgers waiting for his chance. Its amazing that there are some people that still think the Packers are evil for trading Favre though. How can they not see this? Every single year now Favre wants to wait until training camp to decide he wants to play. There is no reason to allow Favre to do that unless you are desperate for a QB. The Packers had a good one in Rodgers and he proved it last year.

I'm with GBP. Favre is a selfish jerk. He is going to destroy the Vikings. He will come in and play good for a few weeks then self-destruct at the end of the year just like he has for the last 5 years. Then he will retire after the Vikings cut one of their QBs and then they have to start over, just like the Jets. I'm glad for that though. I really think the whole Jets cameo was a total shame. The Jets cut Pennington to make room for Favre. He responds by leading a 1-15 team to a 11-5 record and a playoff appearance clinched by beating the Jets on their own turf in a game where Favre threw 3 INTs.

Sorry but you actually have to train in the NFL to expect greatness. At 40 years old you can't just take the whole offseason off and just show up at training camp. Working out with High School kids is not serious training for the NFL. Look at Rodgers and Jennings. Even after minicamps these guys are participating in grueling workouts with the NFL's best players. Favre is working out a couple days a week with High School kids. He just doesn't take it seriously enough. He hasn't for much of the last half of his career.

I am still a believer that his shoulder hasn't gotten much better after surgery, and while he wants to play, is unsure what to do. The vikings have two potential starters already, so they don't car how long this lasts.

I still think he's done, and won't be playing in 2009.

I also suspect he's laying out his excuse for when he falls apart again.

"Well, I know my arm was still injured, but I just wanted to come back and play. If my arm had been 100%, I'm sure the Packers wouldn't have slaughtered us so badly today."

I was discussing the Favre/Vikikng thing with someone at work today. During our analysis I thought "if Favre comes in to play for the Vikings and AP goes down in the middle of the season, Favre will be pressured to put the games on his shoulders. We all know how that can turn out.

Wouldn"t it be better for Brett to get to the Vikings facility so their trainers can help him rehab and help strengthen his arm?

Agree, and also wondering why he didn't have the surgeory the week after last season ended. Or for that matter, in Dec when he hurt it with 4 weeks to go.

Denna just goes all Mr. Miyagi on his arm.

Or Buss Cook. C'mon just one more contract, and I'll leave

Is Denna a Viking trainer?

...more hate mongering. To be fair, I bet you or no one on this board has communicated with him to know why he is doing what he is doing or his intentions. Speculation is okay but the opposite view is just as valid then.

I would fathom to bet that 99% of the people on this planet are "selfish jerks." If you doubt me, try and by a ticket to Lambeau for face value.


These types of articles fall into the it is somebody else's stituation to deal with now. I believe MM said they have "moved on." This is probably a good approach.

Exactly. Too bad the author of this thread doesn't have any perspective.

That will be the topic of his next thread.

Too bad you never look beyond your Favre goggles.

Right on, Vinnie.

It's amazing how people can be so judgmental about a guy doing something as trivial as this, yet never once look in the mirror while doing it.

Agree completely. The depths he is reaching is getting bizarre. Sadly, I doubt he has hit the bottom yet!

I thought you had him on ignore?

Just when he tries to PM me.

The only offseason he took it seriously was when Favre had a personal trainer that summer in 2007 and he came into the season in top shape. He then had his best season in eons. If you think back to his teary "retirement" PC he said - in so many words - that he was weary of the offseason work required and he had nothing more to give to the Packers. If he was as tired and spent as he professed, I find it curious that he got the itch to play again so soon afterwards. Why did he wait until the 11th hour before filing for reinstatement? I too think he loathes training camp and OTAs but still wants to play on Sundays. He wore down last season in NY because he didn't come to their camp in top condition. He is now another year older with a surgically repaired throwing arm. Lord knows if he will hold up for the upcoming 16 game season. I seriously have my doubts.

The only thing bad for us is if Favre plays like I think he will in the second half of this season - should he come out of retirement - MN just might actually fire Childress!!

Very astute Vinnie

By people do you mean the originator of most of the threads on the Brett Favre sub forum?

Once again Vinne you show you dont know what your talking about. Hate Mongering? Jeesh are you 66 Ray and Packer Backer NY an ostrich? Because these days calling Favre a selfish Jerk is true if you think otherwise I have ask if you have your head buried in the sand and not see what Favre has done for over the last year.

Sherman had a trainer hired as well to work with Favre during the off season a couple years prior to that.

Or maybe you should ask yourself if it is you who looks like the selfish jerk with all your petty whining and crying.

Vinnie is dead on, balls accurate. It's an industry term.

Relax!

Ok...lets stop the personal bashing.

I think some posters' comments have more to do with your immense obsession with the subject than your actual opinion.

Spot on well Said

On most internet forums when threads like this go in the dumpoer, I've found the best rememdy is a picture of a hot girl.

Erin Andrews at the ESPYs last night.

I am just sick of the same 3 people who post nothing but you hate Favre.

I tell my kids, someone has to be the bigger person and do the right thing. Also, it takes two to tango so nothing is a one-way street.

Did you ever think that they know it gets to you and that is why they do it? It's a f***in' internet message board. Post what you think as long as it is within the rules. When someone disagrees or calls you names (like hate-monger - which is against forum rules IIRC), you have to decide what to do about it. Not responding may be the best option.

As for the "same 3 people"... Not sure which 3 you are referring to but they could follow the same advice.

Well done Jim

You heard it here first. Luvda and I agree on something.

Let's talk about which Packer is gonna hit Farve first, and how hard.

Like so...


"Nick Barnett will hit Farve so hard, his kid won't even remember his name"



Now you try!



EDIT: And yes at some point I am going to look at who is starting all these Farve threads and that person is going on my ignore list. Stop Starting Farve Threads.

PLEASE.

So, a player that doesn’t play in Green bay tells a team that doesn’t play in Green bay that he will let them know by the day before training camp weather he will play for them or not, and that team is okay with that decision. then said player is being selfish??
If both parties agree to these terms how is it being selfish? It doesn’t seem to me Minnesota is unhappy with the timeline
The only true selfishness happening on this thread is by the unsilent minority who take every opportunity to remind the rest of us how much they hate. Is it not selfish to tell someone they should retire because you don’t play for my team?
Whatever level of commitment this player has made towards returning to this game his new team seems to be content with. Sadly this thread is another nonstory about a legend that use to play in Green bay.