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marklawrence
Favre has every right to play wherever he can.

I have every right to completely disrespect him for certain behaviors.

If he shows up in a purple uniform, as far as I'm concerned it's for the clear purpose of beating the Packers. In this case I'll be sending my Favre jerseys to him, c/o the Vikings, with a note:

"I won't be needing these anymore."

In this case I encourage you all to do the same.

Or better yet, perhaps we'll all send them to Larry and he can send them all in one huge box, along with a picture and a note to JSOnline about how the PackerChatters community is reacting to this.

Maybe he was the best QB to ever play the game. Maybe he was the best QB to ever wear Packers colors. But if he decides to play for the Vikings just to beat the Packers, then he's dead to me.
GBP4EVER
QUOTE (marklawrence @ Jun 1 2009, 01:05 AM) *
Favre has every right to play wherever he can.

I have every right to completely disrespect him for certain behaviors.

If he shows up in a purple uniform, as far as I'm concerned it's for the clear purpose of beating the Packers. In this case I'll be sending my Favre jerseys to him, c/o the Vikings, with a note:

"I won't be needing these anymore."

In this case I encourage you all to do the same.

Or better yet, perhaps we'll all send them to Larry and he can send them all in one huge box, along with a picture and a note to JSOnline about how the PackerChatters community is reacting to this.

Maybe he was the best QB to ever play the game. Maybe he was the best QB to ever wear Packers colors. But if he decides to play for the Vikings just to beat the Packers, then he's dead to me.


Or if you have Favre gear before the Vikings game if your up at Lambeau get a trash can light a fire and throw all of it in there. Or better yet give it to goodwill or something that way if someone would buy the stuff the money would be put to good use.
kanadianpackerfan
I'm pretty sure that SI article was a completely fabricated, tongue-in-cheek, joke type article.
MI_Cheesehead

Favre to Vick? Did I miss something? What does Vick have to do with all this??
JimATX
Vick is going to play WR for MIN after they lose Harvin in the first pre-season game when he plays his first snap int he WildCat.
CHAD
Anyone got a link to the article?
marklawrence
jsonline. lead article.
POLISHHAWK
QUOTE (marklawrence @ Jun 1 2009, 01:05 AM) *
Favre has every right to play wherever he can.

I have every right to completely disrespect him for certain behaviors.

If he shows up in a purple uniform, as far as I'm concerned it's for the clear purpose of beating the Packers. In this case I'll be sending my Favre jerseys to him, c/o the Vikings, with a note:

"I won't be needing these anymore."

In this case I encourage you all to do the same.

Or better yet, perhaps we'll all send them to Larry and he can send them all in one huge box, along with a picture and a note to JSOnline about how the PackerChatters community is reacting to this.

Maybe he was the best QB to ever play the game. Maybe he was the best QB to ever wear Packers colors. But if he decides to play for the Vikings just to beat the Packers, then he's dead to me.



It just turns my stomach to see what Brett's doing. Being a Favre Apologist for the 17 years, and accepting his HUGE mistakes in big games... Almost every packer fan (I think) did the same. We stuck by his side and had his back through all of the bad times. Now it feels like he is spitting on us for selfish motives that might come back and really bite him. If he wears purple; it's plain disrespect to an organization that did everything for him. Even if he came in and won another Super Bowl; what would it prove??? How sweet would it be, Brett? You no longer have a fan base in Green Bay (or New York), and Minnesota fans will long forget you. Is that worth telling Mr. Thompson "I told you I should still be running the organization"?

Or what happens when Minnesota has an average year (which is more likely)... Mr. Favre loses all respect in Green Bay, New York, and Minnesota even loses more respect which was never much.

If this happens... he is going to get the ugliest introduction in Green Bay he would ever dream of.

Sorry Brett; I just don't understand your thinking.
Schaboo
I am not seeing it....
Schaboo
QUOTE (marklawrence @ Jun 1 2009, 01:05 AM) *
Favre has every right to play wherever he can.

I have every right to completely disrespect him for certain behaviors.

If he shows up in a purple uniform, as far as I'm concerned it's for the clear purpose of beating the Packers. In this case I'll be sending my Favre jerseys to him, c/o the Vikings, with a note:

"I won't be needing these anymore."

In this case I encourage you all to do the same.

Or better yet, perhaps we'll all send them to Larry and he can send them all in one huge box, along with a picture and a note to JSOnline about how the PackerChatters community is reacting to this.

Maybe he was the best QB to ever play the game. Maybe he was the best QB to ever wear Packers colors. But if he decides to play for the Vikings just to beat the Packers, then he's dead to me.



you do know it is a game right? All the anti-Favre rhetoric is so ridiculous. When TT & MM decided Favre was no longer in the plans, the guy can do what he wants. If he sucks doing it, so be it. But this vitriolic hyperbole from some label favre the Devil re-incarnate is over the top.

How about we worry if Kampman can play OLB or if we have a Dline? .....you know, Packer stuff.

packinatl
QUOTE (marklawrence @ Jun 1 2009, 10:09 PM) *
jsonline. lead article.


Please, it was a tounge and cheek article by Norman Chad who is the "Color" commentator on ESPN for World Series of Poker. Please people


http://www.jsonline.com/sports/46586912.html

Jeremy
QUOTE (POLISHHAWK @ Jun 1 2009, 08:55 AM) *
It just turns my stomach to see what Brett's doing. Being a Favre Apologist for the 17 years...


I've found myself being his Apologist for many years myself. In terms of play, it's not that hard. He's made a lot of bonehead plays, but he's carried some otherwise mediocre teams, too. The good outweighed the bad as far as play goes, IMO. He was truely a great player.

But I reached my breaking point with his behaviors last year and this year. I've posted on a few football websites and there were always the Favre "haters" out there.

So when several years ago he held the team hostage for months, finally deciding to come back well after the draft and much of the offseason work I said, "Give the guy a break, it's a tough decision." When his agent implied that the Packers making certain offseason moves would make his decision to come back easier, I blew that off as something Bus made up on his own. When he said it wasn't his job to mentor Aaron Rodgers, I defended that, even after it was clear he wasn't very friendly toward Rodgers (must be Rodgers' fault). When it was reported that Favre was furious over TT not getting Randy Moss, I figured that wasn't true or at least exaggerated.

When every year, we had to do the will he or won't he thing fans of other teams were calling him an attention "seeker" (cleaned up for our young readers), I said, no it's just a really tough decision.

Then he tearfully retires, and despite all the drama of the last few years, I'm feeling good about the old gunslinger. Then last year happened. The Greta Vanwhatshername interview in which he trashed the organization (I still can't figure out why he's upset). Comments by LeRoy Butler that imply we don't know the half of it. That he demanded his own lockerroom away from his teammates. Comments from some of the Jets players, Etc.

Even after all of THAT, I figure with enough time I can get over it and look back fondly on Favre.

And now the Vikings thing.

So for me it's not that he wants to play for the Vikings that has me upset, but the entirety of the last 5 years or so, with the Vikings thing being the very last straw. It just got to the point where I couldn't defend him anymore.
packinatl
QUOTE (Jeremy @ Jun 1 2009, 11:53 PM) *
Then he tearfully retires, and despite all the drama of the last few years, I'm feeling good about the old gunslinger. Then last year happened. The Greta Vanwhatshername interview in which he trashed the organization (I still can't figure out why he's upset). Comments by LeRoy Butler that imply we don't know the half of it. That he demanded his own lockerroom away from his teammates. Comments from some of the Jets players, Etc.


He was upset right or wrong that he felt TT pushed him out and did not give him enough weapons. Again not defending it but it is what it is. The bottom line and this has been rehashed time and time again, there were mistakes made on botjh sides.

Also I am convinced that there is more to this story, behind the scenes suff that will never be made public, well unless a book comes out.
Schaboo
QUOTE (packinatl @ Jun 1 2009, 12:07 PM) *
He was upset right or wrong that he felt TT pushed him out and did not give him enough weapons. Again not defending it but it is what it is. The bottom line and this has been rehashed time and time again, there were mistakes made on botjh sides.

Also I am convinced that there is more to this story, behind the scenes suff that will never be made public, well unless a book comes out.



bingo!
ricky
QUOTE (marklawrence @ Jun 1 2009, 12:05 PM) *
Favre has every right to play wherever he can.

I have every right to completely disrespect him for certain behaviors.

If he shows up in a purple uniform, as far as I'm concerned it's for the clear purpose of beating the Packers. In this case I'll be sending my Favre jerseys to him, c/o the Vikings, with a note:

"I won't be needing these anymore."

In this case I encourage you all to do the same.

Or better yet, perhaps we'll all send them to Larry and he can send them all in one huge box, along with a picture and a note to JSOnline about how the PackerChatters community is reacting to this.

Maybe he was the best QB to ever play the game. Maybe he was the best QB to ever wear Packers colors. But if he decides to play for the Vikings just to beat the Packers, then he's dead to me.


Personally, that smoke you see coming from my backyard will be me burining my Favre stuff (not a lot- but a fair amount of Packers paraphanelia) on our barbecue. I have read that it is not so much Favre who is upset, as his family, in particular Deanna. I hate to write this, because I always respected her resolve in fighting all the demons that came into her life (not only Brett's, but her own).

Of course, I mentioned this to the inimitable Mrs. ricky, and her response was immediate and emphatic: "I can criticize you, because I know you. Anyone else better watch out."

I'd suggest TT hire a bodyguard (this is a joke, and not to be taken as a serious comment).
66_Ray
QUOTE (packinatl @ Jun 1 2009, 11:21 AM) *
Please, it was a tounge and cheek article by Norman Chad who is the "Color" commentator on ESPN for World Series of Poker. Please people


http://www.jsonline.com/sports/46586912.html

Totally I caught that real quick the thing was dripping with sarcasm. I guess some folks want to believe anything bad about Farve, it's funny. I have for sale a single manuscript where Favre confesses he wished he could play for the Bears and Lions, I will let this one of a kind item go for $400,000.00
Jeremy
QUOTE (66_Ray @ Jun 1 2009, 10:32 AM) *
Totally I caught that real quick the thing was dripping with sarcasm. I guess some folks want to believe anything bad about Farve, it's funny. I have for sale a single manuscript where Favre confesses he wished he could play for the Bears and Lions, I will let this one of a kind item go for $400,000.00


I don't think anybody thought that was a real conversation. unsure.gif

That he's become a punchline is kind of sad.
marklawrence
If someone had written this about, say, Starr, it would obviously have been a joke.

Perhaps it was a joke. I dunno. But I didn't take it as one, and it's still not obvious to me that it is, save for how would these dweebs get hold of the original texts.
SKing
QUOTE (packinatl @ Jun 1 2009, 12:07 PM) *
Also I am convinced that there is more to this story, behind the scenes suff that will never be made public, well unless a book comes out.


I agree, and I'm sure it makes Thompson and the Packers look much better in the end.
LuvdaPack36
QUOTE (66_Ray @ Jun 1 2009, 01:32 PM) *
Totally I caught that real quick the thing was dripping with sarcasm. I guess some folks want to believe anything bad about Farve, it's funny. I have for sale a single manuscript where Favre confesses he wished he could play for the Bears and Lions, I will let this one of a kind item go for $400,000.00





Pathetic isnt it?
packinatl
QUOTE (marklawrence @ Jun 2 2009, 05:10 AM) *
If someone had written this about, say, Starr, it would obviously have been a joke.

Perhaps it was a joke. I dunno. But I didn't take it as one, and it's still not obvious to me that it is, save for how would these dweebs get hold of the original texts.


Chad is a satire writer. Enough said IT IS A JOKE
packinatl
QUOTE (SKing @ Jun 2 2009, 05:19 AM) *
I agree, and I'm sure it makes Thompson and the Packers look much better in the end.


Al depends on who writes the book tongue.gif tongue.gif
LuvdaPack36
QUOTE (packinatl @ Jun 1 2009, 06:40 PM) *
Chad is a satire writer. Enough said IT IS A JOKE




Im surprised anyone in their right mind took this seriously.

Anyone want to buy a bridge?
Schaboo
It is more fun to tear people down than build them up....
66_Ray
QUOTE (LuvdaPack36 @ Jun 1 2009, 06:32 PM) *
Pathetic isnt it?

sure is
mzahn
QUOTE (Schaboo @ Jun 2 2009, 08:55 AM) *
It is more fun to tear people down than build them up....

I don't think anybody has to tear Brett down, he is doing a pretty good job on his own. Also, the article was IMO just a joke.
66_Ray
QUOTE (mzahn @ Jun 2 2009, 11:30 AM) *
I don't think anybody has to tear Brett down, he is doing a pretty good job on his own. Also, the article was IMO just a joke.

What has Brett done to tear himself down? He says he is retired. The press has printed all this speculation with mystery sources. Some writer comes up with a spoof article about Favre and Vick and the masses swallow it hook line and sinker. This isn't a poor reflection on Favre. It's a reflection on Us as fans, You have the analytical fan such as myself, who keeps emotion out of it. Than you have the emotional fan, you all know who you are tongue.gif
LMG
You forgot the 'reality fan'.

Tired of all the waffling Brett has been doing for years....'reality'.

tongue.gif
chunkymonkey
66 Ray- you need to raise the manuscript price. You're not even up to the veteran minimum yet.

On a more serious note, Ray's point is well thought out. All that we know from named sources is that Brett is retired. That has actually been consistant. Everyone is angry at the thought that he might go to the vikings, and the media has used fictional reports from unamed sources to play on that fear. Look at all of the things they have reported this year, of which none has come true. Childress was flying down, oops not true. Brett was sending his films to minnesota- oops,may not have happened. Brett was havin surgery-- oops,not true.

While it would certainly engender a feeling of betrayal if he went to the vikings, which many of these posts reflect, I think we need to keep in mind that there is really no solid indication that any of the rumors of Brett-Vikings-2009 are true at this time. There will be plenty of time for anger and burning Brett in effigy if and when he does sign with the vikings. For now, he should be given the benefit of the doubt.
Jeremy
QUOTE (chunkymonkey @ Jun 2 2009, 01:19 PM) *
66 Ray- you need to raise the manuscript price. You're not even up to the veteran minimum yet.

On a more serious note, Ray's point is well thought out. All that we know from named sources is that Brett is retired. That has actually been consistant. Everyone is angry at the thought that he might go to the vikings, and the media has used fictional reports from unamed sources to play on that fear. Look at all of the things they have reported this year, of which none has come true. Childress was flying down, oops not true. Brett was sending his films to minnesota- oops,may not have happened. Brett was havin surgery-- oops,not true.

While it would certainly engender a feeling of betrayal if he went to the vikings, which many of these posts reflect, I think we need to keep in mind that there is really no solid indication that any of the rumors of Brett-Vikings-2009 are true at this time. There will be plenty of time for anger and burning Brett in effigy if and when he does sign with the vikings. For now, he should be given the benefit of the doubt.


The media coverage has been confusing, but we do know there have been conversations at least. Childress himself comfirmed that much. We may not know all of the particulars, but it's pretty clear there is (or was) some mutual interest there.

I don't know if that in itself is enough to considered a "betrayal" or not. As I've said before, it's the cumulative affect of the last 5 years of Favre drama that has eroded my ability to give him the benifit of the doubt anymore.
66_Ray
QUOTE (LMG @ Jun 2 2009, 03:34 PM) *
You forgot the 'reality fan'.

Tired of all the waffling Brett has been doing for years....'reality'.

tongue.gif


Yes LMG I forgot about the reality fan smile.gif
R man
I'm indifferent... Whatever Brett wants to is fine with me...
chunkymonkey
QUOTE (Jeremy @ Jun 2 2009, 04:33 PM) *
The media coverage has been confusing, but we do know there have been conversations at least. Childress himself comfirmed that much. We may not know all of the particulars, but it's pretty clear there is (or was) some mutual interest there.

I don't know if that in itself is enough to considered a "betrayal" or not. As I've said before, it's the cumulative affect of the last 5 years of Favre drama that has eroded my ability to give him the benifit of the doubt anymore.


True, we know there have been conversations, but also know they have been friends since the days that Childress was a Badger. I'm sure that given a chance, Brett would have played for Minnesota last year. But that was last year. I'm sure they have talked this year, but what was said? We don't know.

The only stories from sources willing to be identified say Brett is retired. I'm sure Childress isn't going to rule out Brett coming back as everyone knows he might change his mind, but I still find it interesting that most of the things discussed on this issue come from nameless sources and have yet to have any indication to have actually been something other than Brett saying "I'm done for good."

We were all so tormented last year that we assume the worst this year. Is that really a good assumption?
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