I haven't really heard much talk about Favre's consecutive starts record in relation to his coming back (though I admit I haven't read all of the post in the other topics on Favre). Currently Favre is at 269 consecutive starts which is 1 game shy of the official record of 270 games held by Jim Marshall (coincidentally also of the Vikings). I wouldn't be surprised if this is part of whats behind Favre's desire to keep playing.

Hmm, maybe he wants to come back for that reason.

How about this:

He signs a 1 year deal with the Vikings.
He starts the first 2 games of the season (which the Vikings lose because he throws 5 interceptions per game)
He then suddenly retires after breaking the record.
Next offseason, he re-signs with the Packers and retires a Packer.
It comes out that he and Thompson are pals and he was just going through everything to get GB an extra pick this past year and that he came back this year to screw the Vikings.
He then retires as the GB hero he has always been thought of.

"Cocaine's a hell of a drug"

Marshall - 282
Favre - 269

Looks like 13 to tie and 14 to break it.

Yep, the 282 is the number I find and that is not counting playoffs. Favre could hit it against the Panthers on December 20th. He does have a couple years left to go to break the number of consecutive games played in (not started). That's Jeff Feagles with 336 and he is still active.

I saw that also, and I think the official record for consecutive starts is 270. The record for consecutive games played is 336 set by punter Jeff Feagles, and Marshall is second on the list with 282 consecutive games. Though according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Marshall_...can_football%29 there is some controversy whether Marshall had 270 or 282 consecutive starts "due to a lack of documentation of his streak as a member of the Cleveland Browns."

If you're going to look at consecutive games, then Favre has 271 consecutive games, since he played in the two games before his first start, for which he'd need 11 to tie Marshall, and 12 to be all alone in 2nd behind Feagles.

http://www.packers.com/history/brett_favre_tribute/bio/ look under "streaks and milestones"

I've never believed Favre's assertion that he doesn't care about records. He seemed pretty darn happy when he broke Marino's TD record. I think he treasures this one as well. I don't think it would be his primary reason, but it may be a reason. Every time he throws a pass, he breaks some of his own records. Peyton Manning isn't THAT far in the rearview mirror on a lot of his records. It could factor into his decision, sure.

We all know Favre is doing it for the pure love of the game.

To catch Favre in starts, wins, TDs, and yards, Peyton Manning needs to play for about 6 seasons - assuming he starts every game and continues his average wins, TDs, and Yardage rate of the past 3-5 years -

You may have made that comment in Jest. But every player that does have the sport in his heart as Favre certainly does never wants to quit. Just like the proverbially boxer that thinks he has one good fight left. A football player wants a chance to prove he still HAS it. I am 53 I still long for the chance to fend off a couple of blockers and stop a pitch coming around my end. Even if the next thing I would probably see is the ceiling of an ICU room.

And if this was the reason he still wanted to play I would have no problem with it. His "Part of me coming back last year, I have to admit now, was sticking it to Ted." statement in his interview with SI.com's Peter King pretty much sums it up. Sorry, but to me the guy is a phony.

We had a good draft, other than that not a lot has changed. Some talk of erecting a statue to Brett Favre, not much else.

I see it somewhat differently
You claim Brett wants to stick it to TT, which may or may not be true. At this point we all are just making assumptions.
In making our assumptions that we are just so sure are true. We have spent the last entire year sticking it too Brett Favre. To steal Luvda's expression Pot meet Kettle, you get my drift.

I think this is another reason he keeps playing so he can be sure Manning will never break his records. IMO he is insecure he wants the records and knows if he quits that there is a good chance Manning can and will pass him leaving him with just the INT record and Favre does not want to be remembered as second in all passing stats but the King of the INT.

We have? I don't remember us sticking it to Brett, he has done a fine job after all of these years with his "annual event". I say "annual event" as he has perpetually been in the "I don't know how long I will play", "I don't know if I will play next year", "I decided to retire." "No, I don't want to retire...Wait, scratch that last statement, I never really said that." "No really, I want to come back and I demand my starting job back." "What do you mean that the fans DIDNOT run Thompson out of town and are NOT laying out the green and yellow carpet all the way to Kiln?" "At this time..." Please note, these are not Brett's quotes, but my interpretation of such. No one stuck it to him, unless you think that GB's HC demanding him to studying and condition in the off-season and participate in OTA and mini in 2007. That was not right for a legend. He made the demands, he changed his minds more times that anyone should find reasonable. How many times that we don't know about. How many times before the 1st retirement did we hear, (Not from him, but his surrogates or best media buddies, King, that guy from ESPN..). We may never know.

GB did not stick it to Brett, neither did the fans. What he has done has forever changed my opinion of him, the player and person. He will always be a legend, but no longer held on a pedestal.

That could very well be one of the reasons. The rumored reason is that Favre wants to get back at TT/Rodgers/Packers for trading him to the Jets last year.

No, Brett actually said that in his interview with SI.com's Peter King. His words.

And then there's this.

To be fair, those are Clayton's words, Not Favre's.

However, IMO Favre will do anything in his power to play for the Vikings this year. I may not like it, but I think it is going to happen.

The question is HOW will he play. He could provide the spark and leadership they need at that position, or it could be really embarrassing. At age 40, if his arm isn't 100%, I would bet on the latter.

NO; If Favre plays for The Vikings, then you will see the sticking of Favre. This could include anything from sticking Favre Dolls with needles to Favre being beat with sticks.

I never seen that as a direct quote from Favre. I am not saying it did not happen but a lot of writers feel they can speak for Favre. So far I have noe seen the little " "s around those quotes. Do you know where I can find them??

I may not have been around... but I certainly did not miss the draft!! It shored up a few holes in my opinion.

Look we all know the saga has trailed on for far too long, but there is alot of he said this, he didn't say that, yada, yada, yada, etc.

IF Favre wanted to set the record straight, on anything, he could have a camera crew and any reporter of his choosing at his doorstep in minutes.

Has he done this? No, he has not.

That leads me to believe he is fine with the way the media is portraying him and saying about him. If it wasn't alright with him, why would he let it linger?

And no, I don't think he is coming back to break another record. Him not caring about records might be the only thing I believe he says is true.

That is one question I hope never gets answered, that one can go to the ages. I think Brett should call Bart Starr and speak to him. Bart had shoulder problems at the end of his carreer, it wasn't a pleasnt thing to watch. Some fans gave Bart a hard time. There was't any internet in those days, so I don't really remember how harsh it was.

The posts below have already been responded to, but I'd like to reiterate a few points and maybe add one or two.


The key phrase in that is "part of me". We don't know how big or influential a part that is. It could be a tiny part, but because it nags at him, it's one of the first things voiced. It could be a quite sizeable part which nags at him and is therefore one of the first things voiced. There's no telling.

Favre has always had a confessional streak in him, a tendency not to shy away from bringing up the dirty spots. This could be for any number of reasons. Maybe he's compulsive and is uncomfortable living with his own judgements. Maybe he's like the Tell-Tale Heart. Maybe he knows that it's part of his charm and so does it intentionally. Maybe many things and maybe a blend of any number of those many things.

One can't tell much of anything from that really, except maybe that it's obviously an impolitic thing to say on a public stage and maybe that it reflects a kind of egocentricity that assumes the public cares about his personal demons. Who knows?

I don't know how you go from there to "he's a phony", however. I mean, aside from saying that it's well nigh impossible to be a media star and not be a phony, I'm not sure the statement has any meaning.


That was not MI_Cheesehead's personal claim, just a recounting. Nor is it an assumption. It's a direct quote from a direct interview. The only assumption is that Peter King isn't making it up out of whole cloth, which I think is a reasonable assumption to make since King's reputation, and thus livelihood, rests on such things. It wasn't even a "reputable" beltway media star's standard spreading of malicious gossip based on anonymous sources.

However, I do wonder how it is exactly that we're sticking it to him. Do you think maybe he reads this forum and that all this malicious gossip is causing him emotional distress? Granted, it's always a possibility. But aside from that, unless you're talking about how the ugliness of some views is putting destructive vibrations into the ether or something along those lines, I'm not sure at any practical level how we could be sticking it to him.

Now, if you want to argue that speaking ill of another is bad for us, I think you have a point, albeit that it might not be very well received. That's another sort of proposition altogether.

It was not a case of a writer speaking for Favre, or a source characterizing Favre. Yes, it was a direct quote, made first hand to Peter King. To find it at this juncture, you'd have to do some searching through Peter King columns to find it. I don't remember off hand when it was, even approximately.

Linky to King article.

And it even has the little " "s around those quotes!

I sincerely hope he stays retired and saves face. I would love to see him come back to Green Bay eventually and mend ways. But if he comes back with the Queenies, I hope they fall flat. Would love to see him lead the league in INTs again and have the Vikes fall to under 500. That would be SWEET!!

Correct. And Brett at one point did say part of motivation to play was to 'stick it to Ted'. My point is...having said that once - being honest and saying how he felt at that time - is Brett now labelled as harboring those feelings forever?

I've said many things in my life that I've either later changed my opinion about...or have mellowed my stance on. While none of us knows whether Brett's current motivations to play (still) include 'sticking it to Ted' or don't...everything I read from posters and others is as if Brett said the words yesterday...stands fully by them (versus just saying them in passing or as PART of his reason to keep playing said at one point of time in the past).

I will balance the stance by saying that just as equally, Brett may not live by those same words today - or - as is very often the case - much more meaning was put to the words than originally meant (blown up, taken out of context, said to make a point that he was just upset about no longer being a Packer, etc.).

Personally, I don't care. If part of his motivation to play is to stick it to TT, so what? I'd still embrace him playing in the NFL if he wants to and a team sees him as an upgrade.