sinatra
May 7 2009, 11:27 AM
According to a blog update on JSOnline, Favre has told the Vikings that he is staying retired and won't be signing with the Vikings. Apparently he's going to comment on the decision shortly.
If true, this redeems him some in my book. But he's still got a ways to go to make up for trying to go to the Vikings last year.
texpac
May 7 2009, 11:30 AM
On the JS website blog, they are reporting that Yahoo is saying through sources that Brett will stay retired. He told Childress that he is not going to play football.
sinatra
May 7 2009, 11:32 AM
I beat you.
Cocoman
May 7 2009, 11:36 AM
***** SIGH ******** of relief.
Thank god. Now please let the Packers reach out and sign him to that endorsement deal.
Heatseeker
May 7 2009, 11:38 AM
What a selfish bastard.
I was relying on him to give me something to watch every hour of the day until training camp. Now what the hell am I supposed to do at work?!?
GoGangGreen
May 7 2009, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (Heatseeker @ May 7 2009, 01:38 PM)

What a selfish bastard.
I was relying on him to give me something to watch every hour of the day until training camp. Now what the hell am I supposed to do at work?!?
LOL. Well played sir.
strat1080
May 7 2009, 11:42 AM
QUOTE (Heatseeker @ May 7 2009, 01:38 PM)

What a selfish bastard.
I was relying on him to give me something to watch every hour of the day until training camp. Now what the hell am I supposed to do at work?!?
I agree. If Favre was good for one thing lately its making the dreaded time between the draft and TC go by much faster and certainly more interesting. Of course, I'll believe that Favre isn't playing when its September and he has yet to sign with a team. As much as I loved watching Favre, his mind changes with the wind.
GBP4EVER
May 7 2009, 11:42 AM
Maybe Favre saw all the negative backlash already with people kowing it was a revenge thing and was looking down on him for it and did not want to totally destroy his relationship with Packer fans so he decided trying to get petty revenge was not worth all that.
sinatra
May 7 2009, 11:44 AM
QUOTE (GBP4EVER @ May 7 2009, 03:42 PM)

Maybe Favre saw all the negative backlash already with people kowing it was a revenge thing and was looking down on him for it and did not want to totally destroy his relationship with Packer fans so he decided trying to get petty revenge was not worth all that.
We can only hope. I'd be surprised if that's the case though - he seems to be surrounded by sycophantic yes-men. I'm not sure who it would have been that provided that reality check for him.
rpiotr01
May 7 2009, 11:44 AM
I'll believe it when September rolls around and he's not under center for the Vikings. Until then I'll continue to spend a good portion of my time on this planet chasing rumors about his impending return, which I still believe is guaranteed.
WB PackerFan
May 7 2009, 11:46 AM
If true I am estatic. It would have been a bitter pill to see him with a division rival . I hope Packer nation is able to heal and both Favre and the Packers (fans) can bury the hatchet.
JimATX
May 7 2009, 11:50 AM
QUOTE
I'll believe that Favre isn't playing when its September and he has yet to sign with a team. As much as I loved watching Favre, his mind changes with the wind.
Ditto.
sinatra
May 7 2009, 11:51 AM
QUOTE (WB PackerFan @ May 7 2009, 03:46 PM)

If true I am estatic. It would have been a bitter pill to see him with a division rival . I hope Packer nation is able to heal and both Favre and the Packers (fans) can bury the hatchet.
Your avatar gets me excited every time I see it. It's a refreshing thing to see right now - enough with getting dragged down with the Packer past...time to get excited for the Packer future.
VA_PackFan
May 7 2009, 11:53 AM
Is this finally the end of the Favre saga? We can only hope. Hopefully the wounds will heal and everyone will pretend this never happened.
stuffin
May 7 2009, 11:56 AM
QUOTE (sinatra @ May 8 2009, 01:27 AM)

According to a blog update on JSOnline, Favre has told the Vikings that he is staying retired and won't be signing with the Vikings. Apparently he's going to comment on the decision shortly.
If true, this redeems him some in my book. But he's still got a ways to go to make up for trying to go to the Vikings last year.
NNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! What the heck are we gonna do now??????
texpac
May 7 2009, 12:01 PM
I think there are 3 reasons why he wanted to stay retired.
1- Family- There are reports that Brett promised his youngest daughter that they would take a vacation this summer and she would have to change schools again in a new city.
2- Arm is still not 100%.
3- Mentally he didn't want to spend the time and effort to get ready for another season. That includes min-camps. OTAs and TC.
I think Family is a strong deciding factor.
Ed West
May 7 2009, 12:04 PM
QUOTE (texpac @ May 7 2009, 03:01 PM)

I think there are 3 reasons why he wanted to stay retired.
1- Family- There are reports that Brett promised his youngest daughter that they would take a vacation this summer and she would have to change schools again in a new city.
2- Arm is still not 100%.
3- Mentally he didn't want to spend the time and effort to get ready for another season. That includes min-camps. OTAs and TC.
I think Family is a strong deciding factor.
4. He is a windsock. This is not the end of the story.
PackerJB
May 7 2009, 12:05 PM
Yeah right... I believe him.
Heatseeker
May 7 2009, 12:05 PM
I'll be interested to hear what he has to say about this. The report says that he's going to address these rumors publicly.
My guess is he'll say that it was tempting - but not for getting, "revenge" on the Packers, but to end his career on a more positive note with a team that's on the verge. But ultimately, when he took everything in - the OTA's, the minicamps, training camp and for the second year in a row, being with a brand new team and having to get to know new guys in an unfamiliar setting - that was the thing that nixed the whole idea.
Which, I can understand. From his perspective, the idea itself of coming back to play with the Vikes probably sounded pretty good at first. Thing is, I believe deep down, he still wishes he was still with the Pack and that he never retired to begin with. And to me, that's the real tragedy in all this.
BooHaHa
May 7 2009, 12:06 PM
QUOTE (texpac @ May 7 2009, 02:01 PM)

I think there are 3 reasons why he wanted to stay retired.
1- Family- There are reports that Brett promised his youngest daughter that they would take a vacation this summer and she would have to change schools again in a new city.
2- Arm is still not 100%.
3- Mentally he didn't want to spend the time and effort to get ready for another season. That includes min-camps. OTAs and TC.
I think Family is a strong deciding factor.
Anyone wanna stop and think how this all got started?
A bunch of anonymous sources quoting everything under the sun after one or two media outlets jumped on the "at this time" part of a statement.
Everything else but the little statement has all been rumor and innuendo.
Maybe just maybe Favre really was just planning to retire on a one day deal as a packer? Maybe just maybe the media jumped the gun and started running with a non issue because it is the slow time of the season?
Naw surely not reporters never lie!
I have seen Arrigo get roasted in this forum for less flagrant rumors than what has been flying about Favre in the past week.
grabthar
May 7 2009, 12:08 PM
Well, I hope it's true. If so, it will be best for everyone. I won't, however, believe it until the season starts.
*sigh*
So we all get the news we wanted to hear - that the rumors were overblown and Favre intends to stay retired - and then half the responses are something to the effect of:
I won't believe it until Favre dies - is cremated - his ashes are put in a casket - the casket is buried six feet underground - holy water is poured around his grave - and the season is already half-done. Only then will I believe he is not coming back...
Why can't we just be happy that he seems to be making the right decision in staying retired?
big ror
May 7 2009, 12:24 PM
QUOTE (ajg @ May 7 2009, 03:14 PM)

*sigh*
Why can't we just be happy that he seems to be making the right decision in staying retired?
*sigh*
You're kidding, right?
QUOTE (big ror @ May 7 2009, 01:24 PM)

*sigh*
You're kidding, right?

OK - but it just seems like a whole lot of people
wanted to be angry at Favre - and now they are reserving the right be hang onto it indefinitely...
big ror
May 7 2009, 12:27 PM
Or maybe they just have trouble believing liars.
chunkymonkey
May 7 2009, 12:29 PM
I believe him. I think the reason he has waffled so much in the past is that toward the end of the year he wasn't enjoying playing. He looked miserable against the Giants in the playoffs, and it had to hurt to throw that pick.
It had to be miserable playing like he did at the end of last year. I think he would love to play if he could play like he did ten years ago. I listened to clips of him from february (like I'm sure everyone has) and it seemed clear that he didn't want to play if he couldn't play at a high level.
I let the espn rumors from un-named sources get me going. I think he has decided to give it up as much as that is hard for some one in that position.
QUOTE (big ror @ May 7 2009, 01:27 PM)

Or maybe they just have trouble believing liars.
I guess one can spin it either way...
WB PackerFan
May 7 2009, 12:31 PM
QUOTE (ajg @ May 8 2009, 02:26 AM)

OK - but it just seems like a whole lot of people wanted to be angry at Favre - and now they are reserving the right be hang onto it indefinitely...
Trust me I for one never
wanted to be angry at Favre. Favre had a little to do with that.
rpiotr01
May 7 2009, 12:32 PM
This ain't ovah...
The GM
May 7 2009, 12:41 PM
Damn, at least the NFLN should make some money and put this on television. Have it like the draft with the big clock running until Favre's decision, or have it like American Idol, Brett, America has voted. and you are safe until next week.
They could have had a Favre reality show during the past two offseasons and cleaned up in ratings.
Big Dave
May 7 2009, 12:45 PM
This will be news when Week 1 is in the books and Favre is not in a Vikings uniform. Until then, this all hearsay to me.
Jeremy
May 7 2009, 01:11 PM
I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say on the matter. Some humility and appreciation toward the Packers organization would go a long way with me.
Oberst
May 7 2009, 01:24 PM
QUOTE (Jeremy @ May 7 2009, 04:11 PM)

I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say on the matter. Some humility and appreciation toward the Packers organization would go a long way with me.
Or at least to the Packer Fans that he was well on his way to alienating.
LuvdaPack36
May 7 2009, 01:32 PM
QUOTE (Jeremy @ May 7 2009, 04:11 PM)

I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say on the matter. Some humility and appreciation toward the Packers organization would go a long way with me.
Right on. He should come begging to the Packers for something. God knows he never gave us anything but heartache and heartburn.
I wish he would just sign a 1 day contract to retire a packer. That would be the best thing for everybody and could end this messy situation with a positive light.
The GM
May 7 2009, 01:40 PM
QUOTE (Jeremy @ May 7 2009, 02:11 PM)

Some humility and appreciation toward the Packers organization would go a long way with me.
Dont hold your breath, just because he may not come back to playing doesnt mean he isnt still pissed.
Terry
May 7 2009, 02:31 PM
I agree in part with ajg - it does seem that some people want the drama to continue. Still, I also partly disagree, ajg. It seems to me that with the exception of Ed West, grabthar, Big Dave, rpiotr, the GM, Big Ror and maybe another one or two that people are awfully hasty in their willingness to believe the latest report on this (or just about any) situation.
And, btw, Big Ror, there are more options than whether to believe Brett Favre or not. One has many variations on what to believe passes for journalism around the country as well.
If anyone hasn't read
Greg Bedard's latest blog in its entirety at this point, I recommend reading it.
I don't know what it is about us (people in general), that we must end the day believing
something on just about any question or issue that passes under our noses. Isn't anyone ever willing to just go to bed
not knowing; just leaving some things an open question?
Maybe for a while, I'll just opt to not believe anything at all on the subject and hold all temptations to form opinions and judgements at bay. If I can.

Maybe I'll start with Anthropogenic Global Warming AND Brett Favre's immediate future.
Labrador Packer
May 7 2009, 03:00 PM
There's always a chance (admittedly low) that if the Packers get into the playoffs and QB Rodgers goes down, then Favre might be drawn in to QB the Packers for the remainder of the playoffs. He'll know the basic structure of the offense and the other players will be highly motivated. The arm could be mended by then.
RobD
May 7 2009, 03:12 PM
QUOTE (Labrador Packer @ May 7 2009, 06:00 PM)

There's always a chance (admittedly low) that if the Packers get into the playoffs and QB Rodgers goes down, then Favre might be drawn in to QB the Packers for the remainder of the playoffs. He'll know the basic structure of the offense and the other players will be highly motivated. The arm could be mended by then.
I will have some of whatever it is your smoking.....no way it would ever happen and I would never want to see it happen.
He can sign a 1 day contract with the Jets and retire a Jet. He can stay away from Green Bay as far as I am concerned. After all his crap,, I have no use for him at all.
Schaboo
May 7 2009, 03:17 PM
all the BS from "fans" about how brett was a traitor blah blah blah.....
do you all feel good about yourselves now?
and the media, again, should be ashamed.
maxman44
May 7 2009, 03:22 PM
QUOTE (RobD @ May 7 2009, 07:12 PM)

I will have some of whatever it is your smoking.....no way it would ever happen and I would never want to see it happen.
He can sign a 1 day contract with the Jets and retire a Jet. He can stay away from Green Bay as far as I am concerned. After all his crap,, I have no use for him at all.
We post to a different standard here - Jr High clichés like that are not appropriate
The GM
May 7 2009, 03:30 PM
QUOTE (Schaboo @ May 7 2009, 04:17 PM)

all the BS from "fans" about how brett was a traitor blah blah blah.....
do you all feel good about yourselves now?
and the media, again, should be ashamed.
I wouldnt have ever said he was a traitor, I've wanted him gone since 2005, what he did after that was some other teams problem.
Agree, the media got this wrong, "Childress was going to Mississippi", "Favre meeting with Childress", reporters claiming they saw "Childress getting on a plane" Bad reporting with no accountability is dangerous. Sports reporting has turned in national enquirer tabloid stories. You dont know what to believe. Sportswriters from yesteryear are turning over in their graves at the crap that goes on today.
Schaboo
May 7 2009, 03:36 PM
QUOTE (The GM @ May 7 2009, 06:30 PM)

I wouldnt have ever said he was a traitor, I've wanted him gone since 2005, what he did after that was some other teams problem.
Agree, the media got this wrong, "Childress was going to Mississippi", "Favre meeting with Childress", reporters claiming they saw "Childress getting on a plane" Bad reporting with no accountability is dangerous. Sports reporting has turned in national enquirer tabloid stories. You dont know what to believe. Sportswriters from yesteryear are turning over in their graves at the crap that goes on today.
absolutely....they were real writers who reported news, not sensational agenda filled minutia
Raff
May 7 2009, 03:40 PM
I have to say it's been quite interesting to hear all the anti-Favre backlash posted here the last couple of days.
All those Packer fans that wanted Favre gone when he expressed interest to return to GB last year seem to be some of the most vocal here in calling him a 'traitor' for considering playing for the Minnesota Vikings.
I also find it ironic that many of those same GB fans were the biggest supporters of having Randy Moss come to GB and become a Packer and wearing the Green and Gold! What about him being a 'traitor' to Minnesota? How could your moral compass have allowed you to support a man who 'mooned' Lambeau Field and basically flipped the bird to all of the GBP nation? Why not suit up Satan if it will help the Green Bay Packers? I would have considered that an ever worse transgression than the Packers dumping Favre !!!
The Packer brass traded Favre. Didn't want him. At that point, IMO, he was free to ply his trade wherever he was wanted. If the Vikings wanted him to be their QB this year, and he was willing, how would anyone consider him to be a 'traitor' after the Packers told him that playing in Green Bay was "NOT AN OPTION"?
Before you say: "He retired, he was jerking the Packers around" -- that's fine, I won't argue with you. He changed his mind. Still, the Packers dumped him. So, the Packers owe him nothing and he owes the Packers nothing. End of story for the Favre-Packers relationship.
Favre is what -- 2 starts away from the all-time NFL consecutive start record? I for one wouldn't stand in the way of the NFL's "Iron Man" from taking that record. Even if its with the Vikings. Or the Bears. Or the Lions. Or the Chargers, etc. Let him play football if you don't want him on your team!
I think he could play this year, if he underwent surgery and actively trained. We may not like that it would be the Vikings he played for, but I don't understand why Packer fans would want to stand in the way of him playing the game he loves. The Packers organization had no place for him anymore, so they have no right to prevent him from continuing to play NFL football!
In my opinion.
big ror
May 7 2009, 03:55 PM
QUOTE (Terry @ May 7 2009, 04:31 PM)

And, btw, Big Ror, there are more options than whether to believe Brett Favre or not. One has many variations on what to believe passes for journalism around the country as well.
Of course there are other options for other people. That is why I said "
maybe they just have trouble believing liars."
I don't believe anything Favre says. The man has lost all credibility he once had. People like to pass him off as this naive country boy who just loves to play the game, but in reality, the guy is much, much smarter than people give him credit for. He knows what he is doing. He knows how the media salivates at his every word.
"
It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently."
-Warren Buffett
MI_Cheesehead
May 7 2009, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (big ror @ May 7 2009, 01:27 PM)

Or maybe they just have trouble believing liars.
LuvdaPack36
May 7 2009, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (big ror @ May 7 2009, 06:55 PM)

Of course there are other options for other people. That is why I said "maybe they just have trouble believing liars."
I don't believe anything Favre says. The man has lost all credibility he once had. People like to pass him off as this naive country boy who just loves to play the game, but in reality, the guy is much, much smarter than people give him credit for. He knows what he is doing. He knows how the media salivates at his every word.
"It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently."
-Warren Buffett
Im sure he's devastated that you think that.
chunkymonkey
May 7 2009, 05:05 PM
I guess the question comes up: If Brett changes his mind in say the first week of July, would the Vikings want him?
It seems the decision to sign Brett is not without risk, and the more time that Minnesota invests in Rosenfels and Jackson would perhaps increase the risk. Maybe not. But now you've spent a bunch of time developing the young QB's, getting a certain mindset going in the team. Brett show up, then you have to start over, and you're not sure where he's at with the arm and if it will last all season. Not much time to decide.
If its true that they wanted full participation in the offseason, then they might say no.
Guess I could do what Terry suggests and go to sleep without forming an opinion.
Oh heck, what fun would that be.
Ralimar
May 7 2009, 05:16 PM
Uh oh, the "for shame" chorus is gearing up.
I, for one, regret nothing. The prospect of him signing with the Vikings was infuriating, and a lot of people felt that way.
Heck, it might be that some of the massive outrage walked him back on his desire to go to the Vikings a little bit.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised, if this decision lasts, that the decision was in part based on the negative media. I'd be willing to bet Deanna's charities were catching hell over it too (in terms of donors in WI, which have to account for a lot of their funding), and it would have a pretty big impact on the things she does.
Rightly so. Fans have zero obligation to continue to support them financially or otherwise if Brett goes to the Vikings. There are plenty of other ways to give to good causes.
Grantland Rice
May 7 2009, 05:20 PM
Okay folks, you can pick up your bucket of tears and go home now.
There is nothing to see here.
All the over zealous vocal minority poster have come back off the ledge, so lets move along
This was just a false alarm. All the whining and crying was for nothing
Go back to your real lives
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