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mhage421
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4108844

Are the Vikings in his future?
GB PACKMAN 4
I hope he signs a 1 day to retire a packer
ThatGuy284
No. No. Please God no.
jpackman
WOW...will it ever End....

I was thinking on Posting this earlier but did not want to stir up a hornest nest..Earlier Today PFT Floria had this: Down the page some on the Link below:

Stage Set For Favre’s Second Annual Unretirement?
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2009, 4:04 p.m.
Earlier this year, quarterback Brett Favre announced his Second Annual Retirement.

The move was surprising, given that Favre had enough leverage to force an outright release. With a $13 million cap number that the Jets couldn’t comfortably carry, Favre could have dug in his heels — and the Jets would have had to dump him.

Per published reports from February, agent Bus Cook asked the Jets if they’d give Favre an outright release in lieu of placing him on the reserve-retired list, and the Jets declined.

But, as point out in our latest Ten-Pack for SportingNews.com, circumstances have since changed. The Jets have found their quarterback of the future. (And, as far as the effort to sell PSLs is concerned, the future is right-freaking-now.) They’d have no reason to bring Brett back, if he decides he wants to play in 2009.

Then there’s the question of whether Favre has the stomach to force the issue for the second straight year. On one hand, all he has to do is send a letter to the Commissioner asking to be reinstated, and then the Jets would have to come up instantly with enough cap room to accommodate his $13 million salary. On the other hand, he’d have to suffer through even louder voices of criticism for his inability to move on, and for his clumsy quest to end his career in Elwayian fashion.

Our guess? If Favre decides that he’s intrigued by addition of Percy Harvin to a stable of playmakers that includes Adrian Peterson, Chester Taylor (for now), and Bernard Berrian, Favre might feel very differently in late June than he did in late January regarding the question of whether his Second Annual Retirement should be his last one.

So file this possibility away in the back of your minds for now. In roughly the same spot where it’s likely swirling in the back of Brett’s.

UPDATE: In the interests of clarity, the Jets couldn’t trade Favre to the Vikings or any other NFC North team (except the Packers) without owing Green Bay three first-round draft picks. But if/when Favre forces his free and clear release, Favre can sign with anyone, and the Jets would owe the Packers nothing.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/


Now this:

Jets Officially Release Favre
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2009, 10:07 p.m.
Wow.

On the same day we speculated that the stage could be set for the Second Annual Brett Favre Retirement to be followed by the Second Annual Brett Favre Unretirement, the Jets threw the NFL world a curve ball by releasing Favre from the reserve-retired list.

Per Dave Hutchinson of the Newark Star-Ledger, the Jets announced the move Tuesday night.

The move means that Favre is an unrestricted free agent, free to sign with any team.

Including the Minnesota Vikings.

Favre wanted to play for the Vikings last year, but the Packers refused to grant him an unconditional release. At one point, the Packers accused the Vikings of tampering with Favre, based on communications between Favre and Vikings offensive coordinator Darell Bevell and head coach Brett Favre. (The charges were found to be unsubstantiated.)

Green Bay held firm in its position, and Favre ultimately accepted a trade to the Jets. Under the terms of the deal, the Jets would have owed the Packers three first-round draft picks if they had traded Favre to the Vikings, Bears, or Lions.

The Jets reportedly declined to release Favre in February, when he retired for the second time in less than a full year.

“[Agent] Bus [Cook] and Mike [Tannenbaum] have been talking about this for a while,” Favre said in a statement. “Nothing has changed. At this time, I am retired and have no intention of returning to football.”

But unless Favre is planning to sign a one-day contract to officially retire (again) with the Packers, there’s no reason for the Jets to make the move if Favre has no intention of returning to football.

Our guess? Once Cook sufficiently and successfully pestered the Broncos to trade quarterback Jay Cutler to the Bears, Cook embarked on an effort to pester Tannenbaum to release Favre, if for no reason other than to clear out any potential impediments to the wild gray hair that might crawl up Brett’s butt in the next month or two.

The next step for Cook? He’ll start pestering Bevell and Childress to start pestering Brett to provide the final piece for one of the most talented teams in NFL history at every position except the one that counts the most.

........WOW.... I hope and pray we dont ever have to deal with the Snake Oil Salesman Bus Cook ever again....I smell he is is up to Something.....
philh64
Great, the Packers could use a veteran QB to backup AR that knows the offense. Bring him in for a tryout.
Traveling Packer
QUOTE (GB PACKMAN 4 @ Apr 28 2009, 09:16 PM) *
I hope he signs a 1 day to retire a packer


That is what I figured.
MI_Cheesehead
I hope he goes to the Vikings. I'd love to see Raji flatten him. tongue.gif
GBP4EVER
No one will tough him until he gets surgery to fix his arm. Who wants a bum armed QB? Even then he will be 40 in Oct. The Vikings know he would be a one year rental and it would not get them to the SB so why sign him. Also Favre nows he is done he will sit at home until maybe someone offers him enough to go sit in the booth.
TheBigCheese
QUOTE (philh64 @ Apr 28 2009, 10:37 PM) *
Great, the Packers could use a veteran QB to backup AR that knows the offense. Bring him in for a tryout.



HAHAHA wow, thanks for that. laugh.gif
Randolph Hiedler
QUOTE (GBP4EVER @ Apr 29 2009, 02:51 AM) *
No one will tough him until he gets surgery to fix his arm. Who wants a bum armed QB? Even then he will be 40 in Oct. The Vikings know he would be a one year rental and it would not get them to the SB so why sign him. Also Favre nows he is done he will sit at home until maybe someone offers him enough to go sit in the booth.


Favre is still better than what they have, even if he can't good in cold weather anymore and now has the arm strength of Tim Couch. I would NOT trust any word that comes out of his mouth about retirement until the season has safely begun. Bus Cook seems to be still be meddling in Minnesota.
philh64
QUOTE (GBP4EVER @ Apr 29 2009, 08:51 AM) *
Also Favre nows he is done he will sit at home until maybe someone offers him enough to go sit in the booth.


I'm sure that is exactly what Favre is doing; sitting at home hoping someone will call him for an offer to do something because he is so bored to death!! rolleyes.gif
jpackman
QUOTE (Randolph Hiedler @ Apr 28 2009, 10:57 PM) *
Favre is still better than what they have, even if he can't good in cold weather anymore and now has the arm strength of Tim Couch. I would NOT trust any word that comes out of his mouth about retirement until the season has safely begun. Bus Cook seems to be still be meddling in Minnesota.



Randolph, I can concurr with what you stating, but the MAN I DO NOT TRUST IN ALL OF THIS IS BUS JAMES COOK.... Period... I have a disdain for this man as he has no inegrity and I belive nothing out of his mouth...

Oh and I will be the first here as qucik as I can to state what great move it is if he does this only to to come to the packers for one day comtract and retire.... I am all for that 100 %... I am not a Favre Basher..As I have enjoyed every game he has played and cried with him in March of 2008....
PACKmanN
QUOTE (Randolph Hiedler @ Apr 29 2009, 03:57 AM) *
Favre is still better than what they have, even if he can't good in cold weather anymore and now has the arm strength of Tim Couch. I would NOT trust any word that comes out of his mouth about retirement until the season has safely begun. Bus Cook seems to be still be meddling in Minnesota.

not only is he terrible in the cold weather now, but he is also bad in domes. Minnesota = bad mix.
PackerBacker420
QUOTE (jpackman @ Apr 29 2009, 09:32 AM) *
Favre said in a statement. “Nothing has changed. At this time, I am retired and have no intention of returning to football.”

That's what freaks me out! If he wasn't contemplating returning he would just say nothing has changed, I am retired...but he just had to add that.
JimATX
When a starter goes down in TC I think there is a better than 75% chance that he'll get a call. And that's too bad...
jpackman
Oh I have a minor conspiracy theory...WHy did Bus Coock push for Chicago for Cutler, and now iF and that IS A BIG IF..Favre goes to Vikings ...how bad do the feelings and ill will towards the Packers does James BUS Cook Have towards the Packer Organization or is it someone Else....

I just find this would be very strange to say the least knowing the Readskins wanted Cutler and that would have paid boat load more for Jay then Chicago...

I will wait and see but if it happens I thnk it is one of these things that Make you go....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

But it is all good with Me...they both threw in the high 20's last year in Picks...Harris, Williams, Collins and other DBS get ready ...maybe we could get 50 INTS next year.....
Ed West
Channels four and six in Milwaukee tonight read from a release by Brett saying he has no intention of playing football at this time.

Just for the record, this weekend I posted asking what the Jets were going to tell Sanchez when Favre unretires...he has earned the right to do that you know...I believe the moderators took it down. I can't find it anywhere. Obviously it was a joke, and I realize this doesn't mean he is coming back, but I can't believe they took down my post...I was even polite and didn't say mean things about other posters. rolleyes.gif
jpackman
This is the other Key Point from this:


But unless Favre is planning to sign a one-day contract to officially retire (again) with the Packers, there’s no reason for the Jets to make the move if Favre has no intention of returning to football.
Heatseeker
I'm scared....
MrHenderson
Fine... let him come back. I would love to add 7 more INTs to the Packers secondary. Then let Matthews and Raji crush him!

I love what Brett was but he needs to go away now.
JimATX
QUOTE (Ed West @ Apr 28 2009, 10:55 PM) *
Channels four and six in Milwaukee tonight read from a release by Brett saying he has no intention of playing football at this time.

No one is playing football at this time.
LeRoy36
The thing that people are forgetting is that lets say Favre wants to play the problem is he doesnt not want to put the work in the offseason to come back and play, at least the work to make him a solid QB. Say if he does unretire....again the Vikings would be fools to pick him up because for one thing Childess has no spine and would probably let Favre miss OTAs and mini camps and if he thinks he can get into playing shape with just using Training camp let him try, it will only end badly for him and the Vikes. Add to it that he is going to be on the wrong side of 40 and is coming off an injury he doesnt want to get surgery done on. Plus they just gave up a pick to get Sage.

I say let him come back. Granted it woul be hard to see him in a purple uniform but it woud just prove how petty he is and he will just turn into an INTs machine and cost his team a playoff berth.


*Question if Favre tried to unretire again does anyone think Goodell would deny his request? I mean it is pretty easy to see what the guy is doing and if he just allowed every player to retire and then unretie to just force what teams they could go to could cause problems down the line.
GBP4EVER
QUOTE (LeRoy36 @ Apr 29 2009, 12:12 AM) *
The thing that people are forgetting is that lets say Favre wants to play the problem is he doesnt not want to put the work in the offseason to come back and play, at least the work to make him a solid QB. Say if he does unretire....again the Vikings would be fools to pick him up because for one thing Childess has no spine and would probably let Favre miss OTAs and mini camps and if he thinks he can get into playing shape with just using Training camp let him try, it will only end badly for him and the Vikes. Add to it that he is going to be on the wrong side of 40 and is coming off an injury he doesnt want to get surgery done on. Plus they just gave up a pick to get Sage.

I say let him come back. Granted it woul be hard to see him in a purple uniform but it woud just prove how petty he is and he will just turn into an INTs machine and cost his team a playoff berth.


*Question if Favre tried to unretire again does anyone think Goodell would deny his request? I mean it is pretty easy to see what the guy is doing and if he just allowed every player to retire and then unretie to just force what teams they could go to could cause problems down the line.


No because the NFLPA would go nuts and also the NFL would make more money with Favre playing because despite what he has become he still draw people in. The big thing to watch for is if he all of a sudden has surgery soon or if he already has had it and has kept it under wraps.
rpiotr01
Why is anyone suprised? We knew he still wanted to be a Viking even when he retired. This is just step one.
GBP4EVER
ha ha ha ESPN viking board is already talking about how they need to get him and how he will be a Viking. Let him go I say.
LuvdaPack36
Nothing has changed. As this point, I am retired and have no intention of returning to football.”


Make sure you guys get your petty little shots in. rolleyes.gif
grabthar
QUOTE (LuvdaPack36 @ Apr 29 2009, 07:34 AM) *
Nothing has changed. As this point, I am retired and have no intention of returning to football.”


Make sure you guys get your petty little shots in. rolleyes.gif


Just a little reminder, LuvdaPack...


QUOTE (LuvdaPack36 @ Jul 2 2008, 04:04 PM)
Cook told ESPN that Favre is retired and thats that.


Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

Anyone who believes anything at this point is just being blind. I won't believe anything until the first regular season game starts and Favre is not on anyones roster.
Packergeist
I know Favre was angry last year and wanted a little revenge, but I'm not sure that feeling
is as strong anymore. It's a year later and it's difficult to hold on to anger like that unless
it's your normal personality, and I don't think it is for Favre.

If he really wants to play again, and the best opportunity is the Vikings, it could happen.
But I don't know if revenge would play that big a part in this anymore.
jpackman
QUOTE (LuvdaPack36 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:34 AM) *
Nothing has changed. As this point, I am retired and have no intention of returning to football.”


Make sure you guys get your petty little shots in. rolleyes.gif



So Luvda, Riddle me this...As I am having a hard time understanding , the Fact is that he is on the Jets Reserve/Retired list and I will quote from the article from Florio Again:

Unless Favre is planning to sign a one-day contract to officially retire (again) with the Packers, there’s no reason for the Jets to make the move if Favre has no intention of returning to football.

And if I recall , I could be wrong but I think Farve stated that the retirment thing with the Packers would not happen soon....So what is possible reasoning for this...( and I suppose really no one knows except Brett or Maybe Bus)

Possible scenarios:

1. To Retire as a Packer - Which I am not saying he will or will not do this year...But as I pointed out somnehwre I recall him stating it would not be this year....

2. Come Back and Play- And by all acounts everyone seems to think it would be with the Vikings... I once again am not stating he will or will not..

And then I look at Bus Cook ...and I have my thoughts and possibilities listed earlier in the thread, they may be far fetched and I hope way off base, but what if it is..What kind of thought process would it be to have BUS move Cutler to Chicago, and get Favre Released from the Jets then sign with the Vikings...I mean why would no one question the motive or sincerity....I thought Agents wre supposed to get more money for the playrs.. And we all know that Snyder would have paid Cutler handsomely....ALA Haynesworth.....

Not taking petty shots ...Just asking the questions on all of this and the timing once again...

And as Grabthar Stated:

QUOTE (grabthar @ Apr 29 2009, 08:56 AM) *
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...


When September 10 ,2009 rolls around and he is not on a Roster , I guess I will believe it for now..but Players could get hurt ...That I understand..... I guess this could be the third scenario and the other reason to get released....

Just my Thoughts and Opinion...No problem in him coming back, fine by all means come back and play the game, hopefully not for vengance....






chunkymonkey
Come on guys, after the end of last year it is clear to everyone, including Brett that he can't play at the level he wants to play at. Yes, he can read defenses better than almost any of the active QB's out there, but he no longer has the arm due to a torn biceps tendon. It would be like watching the last days of Bart Starr after he went to Mayo for his shoulder surgery.

Brett is not the savior of Minnesota-- I'm far more worried about Tarvaris Jackson catching fire.

If Brett wants to come back, let him.

He won't though.
NecessaryRoughness
The Vikings only have ONE cold weather game scheduled, Dec. 28, 2009, at CHI. Their schedule is taylor made for Favre.

For the Packers, I seriously think it would be a benefit this year, because Woodson and Collins should know Brett's tendencies and get the interceptions.

Also, Brett could throw enough picks to get Childress fired.

As a strict Packer fan (not a Favre fan), I like the damage Brett could do to the Vikings and have little fear he could inflict harm on the Packers in 2009.
Jeremy
I can almost see him doing the Vinnie Testeverde thing. A playoff team loses their QB later in the season and doesn't have a strong backup in place. Give the ol' gunslinger a call and see if he can carry them the rest of the way. Yeah, he's stunk it up late in the season and in the playoffs in recent years, but maybe without the wear and tear of a full season, his arm would be fresh enough to carry a team for a half season or less. Kind of a Roger Clemens type of situation.

If the Packers started 8-3 and then lost Rodgers for the year...would ya? unsure.gif
philh64
QUOTE (Jeremy @ Apr 29 2009, 09:17 PM) *
If the Packers started 8-3 and then lost Rodgers for the year...would ya? unsure.gif


I would, but TT wouldn't. TT would put Crosby in at QB before he would ever call Favre.
JimATX
QUOTE (NecessaryRoughness @ Apr 29 2009, 09:03 AM) *
The Vikings only have ONE cold weather game scheduled, Dec. 28, 2009, at CHI. Their schedule is taylor made for Favre.

For the Packers, I seriously think it would be a benefit this year, because Woodson and Collins should know Brett's tendencies and get the interceptions.

Also, Brett could throw enough picks to get Childress fired.

As a strict Packer fan (not a Favre fan), I like the damage Brett could do to the Vikings and have little fear he could inflict harm on the Packers in 2009.

That would suck, don't you think?
rpiotr01
He has no interest in being a Packer. He's only interested in being a Viking, and I am now 99% sure he will be their opening day QB this year. This seals the deal. He'll be back.
RamRod
just ignore it, maybe it will go away!!
Randolph Hiedler
QUOTE
“Nothing has changed. At this time, I am retired and have no intention of returning to football.”


I have been talking with a few people and from past actions we feel this has different meaning. Basically what we feel this means is that Favre is not willing to do any off season work with any team - but is willing to come back in late July or early August to a system he is familiar with. All signs point to Minnesota. Apparently Bus Cook is still building a bridge to the Vikings. Cook knows that the opportunity for Favre to attempt to burn Thompson and Rodgers is too good for his ego to pass up.
Heatseeker
Waynorth
He already has part of what he wants. He has everyone talking about him again and ESPN cameramen are probably starting to gather at the edges of his property. I cannot see any interest in him after last season but I have said the same about Vick. Remembering that people like Al Davis are in positions to evaluate players and make decisions I would guess that anything could and probably will happen. I believe he'll play if he gets his way,and if he's physically able.

I believe we will be kicking that retirement can down the road for quite a while longer.
ajg
I'm not going to even worry about this at this point - he is retired. I would hope that this just means that he can sign with the Pack for a day whenever he chooses so that he can retire a Packer.

If I'm wrong...........
ThatGuy284
I know this much...Bus "Iago" Cook gets paid if Favre plays this year.

What I don't know is what kind of compensation he receives if Favre doesn't play. I'm guessing not as much if anything.



Right about now Iago is sitting around looking at Favre's rookie card and his own self-portrait, stroking them both and whispering in his best Gollum voice...we will getsss paid my preciousss, we will getsss paid.
LuvdaPack36
QUOTE (grabthar @ Apr 29 2009, 07:56 AM) *
Just a little reminder, LuvdaPack...




Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

Anyone who believes anything at this point is just being blind. I won't believe anything until the first regular season game starts and Favre is not on anyones roster.




We all also knew he still wanted to play last year. He's coming off an injury now, he's 40 years old and he also knows that his days are over.

I guess Im blind...with common sense.
LuvdaPack36
QUOTE (jpackman @ Apr 29 2009, 08:37 AM) *
So Luvda, Riddle me this...As I am having a hard time understanding , the Fact is that he is on the Jets Reserve/Retired list and I will quote from the article from Florio Again:

Unless Favre is planning to sign a one-day contract to officially retire (again) with the Packers, there’s no reason for the Jets to make the move if Favre has no intention of returning to football.

And if I recall , I could be wrong but I think Farve stated that the retirment thing with the Packers would not happen soon....So what is possible reasoning for this...( and I suppose really no one knows except Brett or Maybe Bus)

Possible scenarios:

1. To Retire as a Packer - Which I am not saying he will or will not do this year...But as I pointed out somnehwre I recall him stating it would not be this year....

2. Come Back and Play- And by all acounts everyone seems to think it would be with the Vikings... I once again am not stating he will or will not..

And then I look at Bus Cook ...and I have my thoughts and possibilities listed earlier in the thread, they may be far fetched and I hope way off base, but what if it is..What kind of thought process would it be to have BUS move Cutler to Chicago, and get Favre Released from the Jets then sign with the Vikings...I mean why would no one question the motive or sincerity....I thought Agents wre supposed to get more money for the playrs.. And we all know that Snyder would have paid Cutler handsomely....ALA Haynesworth.....

Not taking petty shots ...Just asking the questions on all of this and the timing once again...

And as Grabthar Stated:



When September 10 ,2009 rolls around and he is not on a Roster , I guess I will believe it for now..but Players could get hurt ...That I understand..... I guess this could be the third scenario and the other reason to get released....

Just my Thoughts and Opinion...No problem in him coming back, fine by all means come back and play the game, hopefully not for vengance....







You forgot scenario 3.

He just retires.

As far as Florio goes...who cares what he says? He's stirred the pot with Favre every year, year in and year out. Why would anyone possibly take what he says seriously?
rpiotr01
QUOTE (LuvdaPack36 @ Apr 29 2009, 12:44 PM) *
We all also knew he still wanted to play last year. He's coming off an injury now, he's 40 years old and he also knows that his days are over.

I guess Im blind...with common sense.



Yes, that is the common sense conclusion. You are blind with common sense.

Favre is blind with ego. He doesn't see it that way. He wants to play for the Vikes and stick it to Ted.

I'd love it if you could share some of that common sense with him, but my guess is he wouldn't listen to it. Probably because no one has tried talking sense into him for some time.
Astonishment
QUOTE (LuvdaPack36 @ Apr 29 2009, 11:47 AM) *
You forgot scenario 3.

He just retires.

As far as Florio goes...who cares what he says? He's stirred the pot with Favre every year, year in and year out. Why would anyone possibly take what he says seriously?

Not to pick a fight, but why would the Jets release him? Why would Cook ask for the release? If he is going to just retire both of the previous are pointless, and Pro teams don't make moves for no reason (we may disagree with the reason, but there always is one).
Bruce
Best scenerio I: Favre stays retired, unless...

Best scenerio II: Favre is available IF Aaron Rodgers is injured and returns to the Packers as an injury replacement.

Worst scenerio I: Favre signs with the Vikings, making them a tougher team to reckon with...

Worst scenerio II: Months of hand wringing and speculation by the media and fans.
The GM
QUOTE (mhage421 @ Apr 28 2009, 07:05 PM) *


We can only hope.
GoGangGreen
QUOTE (Heatseeker @ Apr 29 2009, 11:14 AM) *


God I love that picture.

Appropriate too.
uncledanmke
QUOTE (Astonishment @ Apr 29 2009, 11:51 AM) *
Not to pick a fight, but why would the Jets release him? Why would Cook ask for the release? If he is going to just retire both of the previous are pointless, and Pro teams don't make moves for no reason (we may disagree with the reason, but there always is one).


Because of the NY media and fans.

I don't care how enamored they are with the Mark Sanchez selection, if he comes out of the gate struggling and losing ball games with the Jets, and Favre is still technically their property, you better believe the fans and media will quickly change their tune from "Sanchez is our guy, we're rolling with him." to "Let the kid sit and get Brett in there to WIN NOW."


By releasing him now, at Brett's request, there's nothing the fans/media can complain about when the preseason/season arrives.


Say what you want about Favre not having anything left - and I agree with that statement -, but I think it was a good move for the NYJ to completely wash their hands of him at this point when there's no chance for a backlash from the community later.


PackerJB
His legacy is already tarnished. If he comes back AGAIN, I hope the Packers end his career once and for all if they play him. Yes sounds really harsh, and he is my all time favorite player, but enough is enough.
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