1st Round(9th pick overall): Tyson Jackson DE LSU: Unless if Raji is on the board or Ted thinks Oher offers better value or he really shocks us and takes a OLB like Matthews/English I see Jackson being the pick now. At the beginning of the whole draft process I would of thought this was a huge reach but after all the testing and what have you Jackson seems like the safest bet and probably best value for GB at 9 (unless if someone falls like Raji/Orakpo/or one of the tackles). Also he is probably one of the few players that we could take a 9 that would come in day one and be a starter. Also he has only missed one start in his years at LSU, it was senior day and Jackson wasnt a senior and LSU gave the start to a senior. I think Green Bay and its fans would love to see a DLine guy that plays all the time.

2nd Round(41st pick overall): Clint Sintim OLB Virginia

3rd Rounda(73rd pick overall): Gerald Cadogan OT Penn St

3rd Roundb(83rd pick overall): Keenan Lewis CB Oregon St

4th Round(109th pick overall): TJ Lang OT Eastern Michigan

5th Round(145th pick overall): Terrance Knighton NT Temple

6th Rounda(182nd pick overall): Jamarko Simmons WR Western Michigan

6th Roundb(187th pick overall): Gartrell Johnson RB/FB Colorado St

7th Round(218th pick overall): Brigham Harwell DE UCLA

*Tell me what you guys think

Alright, maybe I am way off but I hate Jackson @ 9, 10, .... 20. He is just not explosive enough and lacks any "wow" factor to be an elite top 10 guy. Maybe post 20.

Maybe I am way off here, but that's is my thought.

What would be "wow" in your mind Vinnie.... sacks? Because 34 DE have to just hold the line and help the OLB get to the QB. The one thing Jackson doesnt overly do is the one thing our scheme wont ask of him, at least not to do it alot. We draft Tyson Jackson at 9 we are helping Kampman out. Also DE is probably the biggest need on this team. We only have Jenkins (who is coming off a serious injury) and alot of maybes, Jolly and his legal issues, Harrell and his health, Malone and can he be a starter in this league, etc.

Maybe a reach but from the looks of it he is unlikely to get past 12-15 now, so I figured 9 really wasnt that big of a reach. Plus in dime and nickel he can be the DE along with Kampman with Jenkins and either jolly/harrell as DT inside (being that we would be 4-3 in dime and nickel most likely).

Jackson offers alot to GB imo.

Jackson got a little air time on Path to the Draft last night. Mayock doesn't think he gets past 15 and all three (Mayock, Charles Davis and Charlie Casserly) really like him. I've liked him for awhlie and am really starting to warm up to the idea of just taking him at 9. If we trade down too far (Denver? Washington?) we won't get him.

Just lacks instincts and does not go full out and kind of slow. As I said above, not special enough in any one category to be a <20. Like I said, just my opinion, you can like him all you want. I respect that.

I like Tyson...but not at #9. Little early.

Now maybe in the #14 -#20 range......

Same here. If you're drafting in the top-10, I think you need to at least try and get someone that has the potential to have a big impact. A Raji, Orakpo, Maybin-kind of player. While I understand Jackson could make a lot happen for our current group of linebackers behind him, I think our current starting DE's will be able to do the job pretty good, actually. Plus, I think Harrell, if healthy (can't believe I'm saying this) is the perfect fit and size to play a 3-4 DE.

T Jackson would be the second coming of V Holliday for GB as he does everything solid but nothing special.. IF TT stays at 9 I want him to take a difference maker something he has failed to do so far IMO... The last one for GB has been Rodgers and he was a huge steal when he fell from the number 1 overall pick to GB at 24? that year...

I have not given up on the idea of getting
the FIRST coming of Vonnie Holliday back!!

Go Pack!!

I know everyone wants a special player in the first round even more so in the top ten but at the same time this draft just doesn't have the stars as pass drafts did. Granted later picks will surprise but as it stands right now I really do see star power in this draft.

A lot of scouts/GMs/experts are saying this is a horrible year to be in the top ten and that many teams will find it tough sledding to trade down from it. I am with everyone else I thing a playmaker is the first and foremost important thing to get but I just don't see one that will be there at 9. Maybe Raji if he falls, Crabtree is you don't mine taking a WR, Moreno is you don't mind taking a RB and reach for him. All the defensive players that we are looking at most likely at 9 scare me. Brown and Maybin (although both been in my mock drafts) scare me to death, after thinking about it if we went OLB at 9 I would much rather reach for Matthews or English. But this is one of the deepest 34 OLB in a long time so I would look to the 2nd round and see who falls, maybe Sintim, or Barwin, maybe English falls, maybe Cushing who knows.

Jackson just seems like the best pick. Raji and Oher both make tons of sense but Raji maybe/is likely gone by 9 and if it came down to Oher and Jackson I like some of the OT that I can get in the later rounds more than I do DEs.

I don't know people want a playmaker and hey maybe Jackson could turn into the next Richard Seymour, is he not a playmaker? But yeah people want one but I just don't see one at 9 that is likely going to be on the board.

I've read several "doubting" comments on Tyson. Then again, I've read several "doubting" comments on Orakpo. I really don't know. A lot of information, a lot of opinions. In the end, you choose your guy and hope that your evaluation is correct- and that he doesn't get that freak injury that could happen at any time.

I'm more interested in the #6 pick. Rather than a RB/FB, its time for the Packers to draft a punter that can solidify the position for years to come. Kind of like I hope Mason Crosby can do as a kicker.

Also, waiting until Round 5 to get a NT? Is that because you think that after Raji, there is relative parity? NT is crucial to making the 3-4 run. Wouldn't Brace in an earlier round be preferable?

There are players, problem is that everyone discounts them because the lines in GB need desperate attention. A guy like Crabtree. There are a lot of haters out there but Wells has the tools to be something special, he is a a much faster version of Jonathon Stewart who was criticized as being an injury risk. Lots of backs have this. Peterson was an injury risk.

I do not know the answer and I am glad I do not have to make the choice, although for a couple mill I would... Round 1 to me should be the most special and gifted guy you can get with the exception of a few positions- ST guys and a QB if you have a franchise guy like the Pack seems to have. The rest, you go for it. 2-7 fill the holes with the best guys you can get.

I'm wondering why Raji offers more potential than Jackson. Other than the bench press, which favors the shorter armed Raji, they're identical athletes.

Then you go to intangibles. Are there any questions about Jackson's character? Are there questions about Raji's? What're their injury histories like? Who's production has been more consistent?

I believe that the one week of practices leading up to the Senior Bowl severely inflated Raji's stock.

LeRoy-
Nice job. While Jackson may not be the most exciting pick, I'm not seeing many other options - maybe Oher, Jenkins, or Brown. TT has a tough decision at #9. Glad you have a CB fairly early and wouldn't it be great to see Lang on the roster. BPF

Leroy36, it takes a LOT of guts for a person to put a mock out there for everyone to see and you do a good job. I appreciate your efforts.

I like your picks but I have to agree with LMG that it's a little early for Jackson. Solid player but at 9? I'm not so sure. I know Patty likes Tyson and that means a lot to this Packer fan. But I think I would be much happier with Oher and then Jarron Gilbert in the 2nd. Of course, then we'd lose out on Sintim, but I think we're much better off at LB than we are at OT and DE. In fact, even if we took Oher in the 1st, I would still be happy with Cadogan later on as well. Our OL is OLD at the OT position and we need some competition there. But that's just me.

Again, you do a good job with these. Keep 'em comin'!

I tend to agree with what seems to be the concensus view. I like Jackson and wouldn't be upset at all if he's the pick, but see him as a better value in the 10-20 range.


Maybe this has been discussed before, but can any of the experts here compare Jackson and Gilbert? How much of a difference is there between them?

I don't know that this is the best mock I've seen, but it comes pretty close to being the best estimate of what TT might do. Jackson is a safe pick that also meets a need. No character issues, loves football. The comments about him being slow and not athletic enough are puzzling to me. Yes, this is true if you are comparing him to all the undersized 'tweener DE's, but at nearly 300#, he ran sub-5.00. Put him into the DT group where most people go to find a 3-4 DE and he looks pretty damn athletic.

Sintim continues the TT tradition of taking "need" in the 2nd round. Cadogan is also a "need" filler. He probably is good enough that he could start at RT right away, and might eventually get it done at LT. The Lewis and Lang picks scream TT. Lewis has the blueprint size/speed blend that TT seems to value at CB. Lang would be another in a list of small school, later round O-line picks for him. He has that versatility TT looks for and could play either RT or OG long-term.

I don't know about Jackson starting. I wouldn't be surprised by the pick - he should be a good player. I just don't think it is our biddest need.

There is a chance he would be 4th on the depth chart.

If Harrell makes it back (I know this isn't likely) but if he does he is a better player than Jackson - bigger, stronger, more athletic etc. Jolly has shown flashes of being pretty good and I expect there to be no lingering legal issues.

I was listening to the radio this weekend and they had a guy from Pro Football review (Brandt's old site.) He (I would have to look up the guys name) was stating how he thought Jackson was one of the few pure 3-4 ends and this is where he gets a lot of his value from. Also, they did not think he was a premier athlete. He said there was a bout 5 elite players and 20 that really deserve a first round grade. The top is thin. So, this tells me if a elite guy is not there, trading down is by far the best thing to do in the top 10. Problem is will there somebody willing?