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eire5199
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1...vre.html?cat=14

Just wondered what you guys thought about this article.
ricky
QUOTE (eire5199 @ Feb 21 2009, 09:25 AM) *
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1...vre.html?cat=14

Just wondered what you guys thought about this article.


Excellent read. Thank you for linking to it after finding it.

No criticism to you, but I think the writer overestimates the love Packer Nation had for Favre. Once he was gone, I believe the overwhelming majority of fans were eagerly hoping Rodgers would be "the man". Statistically, he was. But the team's record (6-10) was dismal.

Do I miss Favre? As a QB, no. However, the writer hit the nail on the head when good 'ol Brett seemed like someone you could just kick back and really relate to as a real person. And I'm not sure how much I would pay to be in Lambeau when his number is retired- though to be there among the adoring throng who would give him a heartfelt and well deserved standing ovation would be awesome.

So, consider me torn on this issue.
Carl Spackler
Wow, just, wow.


All those years and all that winning didn't mean much to some, evidently.
mzahn
As Ricky said he pretty much nailed it.
Schaboo
QUOTE (Carl Spackler @ Feb 22 2009, 08:09 AM) *
Wow, just, wow.


All those years and all that winning didn't mean much to some, evidently.


some either did not live through the 70's and 80's or just think winning happens.
LMG
No one here is denying or forgetting the career Brett had and what he did for Green Bay and all Packer fans.
Terry
Fine, he was a great player for the Packers. No denying.

But this 'good ole Brett' nonsense just makes ya' want to reach for the airsick bags. He also exhibited a load of qualities that would make most football fans feel nothing but contempt for most people, but for Brett, it was all that bleeding heart compassion that most of you disdain entirely in nearly all circumstances. Just because he helped win football games.
ricky
QUOTE (Terry @ Mar 1 2009, 03:07 AM) *
Fine, he was a great player for the Packers. No denying.

But this 'good ole Brett' nonsense just makes ya' want to reach for the airsick bags. He also exhibited a load of qualities that would make most football fans feel nothing but contempt for most people, but for Brett, it was all that bleeding heart compassion that most of you disdain entirely in nearly all circumstances. Just because he helped win football games.


You're right. However, I also think you are being negative and harsh.
1. Yes, he did have children out of wedlock with his high school sweetheart. Then, he married her, and she is a role model for a lot of women. And men.

2. Yes, he was a Vicodin addict, and is still a recovering alcoholic (you never recover, by the way). It was Deanna that called a divorce lawyer. By the way, can you imagine the joy of that particular attorney? A chance to "stick it to" a person who is worth hundreds of millions of dollars?

3. Remember, Favre NEVER missed a game at QB. NEVER.

4. While you're reaching for your airsick bag, please remember- Favre played the game with utter and total joy. He was a pleasure to watch, and when he spoke, it was honest- not PR boilerplate.

All in all, I could find Favre frustrating and difficult (an I was just a fan!). However, he showed up every week, did his best, and was an inspiration.

Yes, we can change and get better. You and I and every reader here, whether they respond or not.

If you have some other "lack of qualities" I'd be happy to address them.

By the bye- I was also happy that Rodgers finally got a chance. I did not buy into the "Favre or death" nonsense.
Terry
QUOTE (ricky @ Mar 1 2009, 12:06 AM) *
You're right. However, I also think you are being negative and harsh.
1. Yes, he did have children out of wedlock with his high school sweetheart. Then, he married her, and she is a role model for a lot of women. And men.

2. Yes, he was a Vicodin addict, and is still a recovering alcoholic (you never recover, by the way). It was Deanna that called a divorce lawyer. By the way, can you imagine the joy of that particular attorney? A chance to "stick it to" a person who is worth hundreds of millions of dollars?

3. Remember, Favre NEVER missed a game at QB. NEVER.

4. While you're reaching for your airsick bag, please remember- Favre played the game with utter and total joy. He was a pleasure to watch, and when he spoke, it was honest- not PR boilerplate.

All in all, I could find Favre frustrating and difficult (an I was just a fan!). However, he showed up every week, did his best, and was an inspiration.

Yes, we can change and get better. You and I and every reader here, whether they respond or not.

If you have some other "lack of qualities" I'd be happy to address them.

By the bye- I was also happy that Rodgers finally got a chance. I did not buy into the "Favre or death" nonsense.

Harsh? Yes, I agree. I have little patience with the fawning over aristocracy people engage in. The double standards, the whole bit. Even unto a two-tiered justice system.

But negative? No sir, not me. I reject that out of hand. First of all, children out of wedlock had not even occurred to me, but if it had, I have no adverse feelings about that sort of thing. And I have no adverse feelings about drug addiction, either, to be honest. But most people do. And that is what I was addressing.

Regarding Favre, I said he was a great player for the Packers. That's the short version of exactly what you said. Furthermore, I wasn't talking about Favre at all, otherwise.

My post, at least that part of it which included the airsick bag remark, was addressed entirely to the author of that piece. And to many fans. So if you want to tell me why I'm wrong, fine. Feel free. But please address the things I said and the subject I was addressing.
Jeremy
I actually think this is a really nice article. I think there's a sprinkling of some fantasy in there. Deep down, many of us don't really believe a lot of it. At the very least it gives Brett a LOT of the benefit of the doubt.

But it's what most of us want to believe. The good times were great, the winning was great, watching him play was a pleasure, and the way he handled all the bad stuff that came his way really was inspirational. I'll always remember that game in Oakland.

The last year showed a side of him that I didn't like and made me question a lot of what I thought was true about the man. With a couple years of nostalgia built up, I think I'll be more receptive to what this author is selling. Many are more than willing to accept it as face value right now. So the article serves a purpose, even if it's not the whole story.
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