http://www.collegefootballtalk.com/2009/01...-chestnut-hill/

Only 2 years after leaving the Packers (as OC) for his "dream job", Jeff Jagodzinski is willing to risk being fired to interview for the NY Jets HC job. Big risk if you ask me, (but nobody has).

I don't get it.

This is clearly just Johnson and Tannenbaum doing their due diligence on the HC position. I doubt Jags isn't even on the top of their list.

Which is exactly why BC is canning him for 'interviewing' is beyond me. More than likely, it has to do with more than just this interview, I mean, his BC team crumbled towards the end of the year losing the ACC Championship game AND the Music City Bowl.

That's a real low thing to do if you ask me.

If BC is going to fire you because you want to better your situation, then who the hell will ever come there to coach? I understand, they want commitment and all, but people move on.. that's the way the world works.

Exactly. Any organization that does not want you to further your career isn't worth working for to begin with.

There was a reason that Tom OBrien also left BC for NC State. Not alot of support there from the top

I think you answered your own question as to why he is being canned. I do not think he and the athletic director are going out for beers any time soon.

He's gone either way. How can you work for someone who tells you that? I sure wouldn't.

That too ---

Is that even legal? Unless he signed something agreeing to those terms I can't imagine he couldn't file a grievance of some kind. Don't know with whom, but there's got to be some set of rules governing this sort of thing.

Nah, my guess is that there is no legal barrier. Unless the employer runs up against one of the crash and burn situations (sexual harassment, racial discrimination, that sort of things), employers can fire without having a good reason. They might well be liable for some part of the contract dollars (depending on the contract language), and of course they are susceptible to the supervision of their bosses if they make too many boneheaded plays, but my guess is that the BC president/AD/whoever can fire Jags for whatever reason they want.

Though I agree with all those who say I'd never want to work for such a boss.

It doesn't surprise me that an academic institution's leadership would make such a threat, however, particularly at one like BC that probably see themselves as guardians of a "grand and noble history". Those who make their livings outside the academy would be shocked at just how often academic institutions get caught up in their own mystique and tradition, how often they think that, because they have been Really Prestiguous Red Brick and Fancy Nightgown University for decades and decades, that no one should ever want to work anywhere else. People who think it it reflects badly on the university whenever someone "looks elsewhere", people who fail to realize that it looks far worse when the university has to resort to threats to keep its people.

I'm betting that if Jags does interview, and BC follows through on its threat, that it will be some time before BC ever gets a winning HC.

I think that you minimize the importance that Boston College places on committment, at any level. The graduation rate of BC football players in 96%, second in the country only to Navy. The university has EXTREMELY high standards for it's students, and needless to say, it's faculty.

Jags left a professional football team (offensive Coordinator of the Packers, his "hometown" team) to HC BC, a position that he passionately fought to get. Now, only 2 years into a 5 year contract he's looking elsewhere, trying to "move up the ladder" into the pro game (WHERE HE JUST LEFT!).

I hope the BC AD cans him on principle. If Jags can't be counted on to commit to the program for 5 years, why should anyone (the players or the BC leadership) commit to him. There's more than "Fancy Nightgowns" and pomp at stake here, it's the University's great name and expectations getting trashed by a flighty HC.

Ok so if you have a chance to interview for a better job I guess your boss should fire you then because you wont committ to the company you work for.

There is more to it than what is now coming out. There is minimal support for the football program from the administration and its the major reason O'Brien left. From what I understand they made promises to O/Brien on upgrading facilities and such and never happened. Jags may have begun to see the same issues. No NCAA coach can be counted on for a 5 year committment. Its the nature of the profession. This is more than just moving up the ladder.

Jags is going to be a great coach for a team, BC are full of themselves if they think they could get someone as close as Jags to coach them.

It's official, he was worth more to BC gone than running their program.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...as&refer=us

If BC was Jags 'dream job' I wonder if it became a nightmare over time? There may be more to this story than just Jags wanting to further his career by interviewing for another gig...

No. Barry knew what he was doing when he hand picked him. Be patient. Barry lifted that program from the ruins to a top 10 team.

I think that since he helped put in the zone scheme and had some luck with it that if the packers keep it they should bring him back. They dont even have to make him the OC they can just come up with some title like assitant offesne head coach. I think this would be a wise move.

I think he got hosed by BC. I also think it would be nice to throw him a bone. What kind of guy is he though? Any time you would bring a guy that had a position back but not in that position it could lead to conflict. Its not really fair to Philbin to get a "demotion" when his unit was doing well. Although I think the offense is really McCarthy's baby rather than any of the coaches, I still think that could be a bad idea.

He's the kind of guy that at 41 yrs. old quits an NFL Offensive Coordinator job after 1 year. Then, two years into his NCAA Head Coaching gig decides he wants back into the NFL and pursues an interview, knowing full-well that this very probably will result in him being unemployed. Does THAT sound like someone you want near the top of the Packer's hierarchy? MM should be fired on the spot if he pitches this to TT or the board.

¿Et tu, pkrjones?

... and only 8-1/2 months later got into the wrong pissing-match in Tampa, and is fired from their OC position. The guys got some serious character/personality flaw(s) to get run-out-of-town, in 2 different towns, in 2 different positions, in a 9 month span. Good riddance, glad the Packers have moved-on (and won't look back?)!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=av4BjoRJEllE

I think that is way overstating it, pkrjones. We have no clue what kind of character/personality flaws he has. The BC firing (IMO) had nothing to do with that. It had to do with the fact the BC didn't want him to interview for an NFL Head Coaching job. He just did what hundreds of college head coaches have done over the years, interview with the NFL. That isn't grounds for being fired.

No clue what is happening in Tampa. The link you show doesn't say anything about getting into a pissing-match with anyone. He was probably fired because he couldn't get Leftwich to be a great NFL QB... well.. no one can.

Per PFT:
ESPN's Adam Schefter speculates that there was friction between Jagodzinski and Olson, and that Jagodzinski perhaps wasn't on board with the decision to name Byron Leftwich the starting quarterback.

What I don't get is that Olson was the QB coach, not the head coach. If the OC and QB Coach don't agree, don't you think the OC would have more clout? Sounds like he was undermined or something.

Dont be shocked if the Glazers had some input on this. Both Leftwich being named starter and Jags being canned

If the QB coach and Head Coach are in agreement, and there's "friction" w/ the OC, I would put that into the category of a "pissing match" with the on-field football staff. There are ways to disagree with co-workers/bosses and NOT end-up fired... don't think Jags knows that, yet.

The BC things, Jags got screwed.

How do you know that it's not Olson who doesn't know that yet?

I have to agree with Grabthar - there's no basis in what we know to make any such conclusions about Jags' character.

More Info:

http://www.seattlepi.com/scorecard/nflnews...rticleID=263739



Also read some rumors that the Chiefs were interested in getting Olson as their OC and if they would have offered it, he could have left TB to go be OC of the Chiefs who just fired their OC earlier this week. I am thinking that Morris just wanted to keep Olson so he decided to switch OC and QB coach, that way Olson was safe, however, Jagz didn't want to take the demotion.

Update:

Adam Schefter just verified that the Chiefs were interested in hiring Greg Olson as their OC. Probably the reason he was promoted in TB.

So far I see nothing that shows Jagz can't get along with people.

Jeff Jags gets fired again? Holy crap...

If they really wanted to keep Jags, why not make him QB Coach/Assistant Head Coach? This would have enabled Olson to move-up the ladder, while not demoting Jags.

Maybe I jumped the gun and assigned more fault to Jags than should have been, but still think there are some "issues" with the man. BC forewarned him that they'd take action against him IF he interviewed for the NYJ job, why is BC at fault?

I certainly don't fault them for wanting/requiring a HC to honor their contract, for the sake of the school, football program, AND the recruits that made committments to BC/Jags.

How about this?

"Sometime during training camp, it became increasingly apparent to Bucs officials and players, that Jagodzinski was not equipped to install and direct an NFL offense. His expertise centered mostly around the zone blocking scheme, which he helped operate for the Atlanta Falcons.

"But Jagodzinski lacked sophistication regarding protections and different aspects of an NFL passing game."

That's some hefty criticism, wherever it comes from.

They offered him another spot on the staff and he declined

Wanting and requiring are like night and day. College coaches in not only football but also basketball move up to better programs or to the pro level all the time. Urban Meyer and in hoops Roy Williams come to mind. So why did BC fire Jags for interviewing for the Jets job why did they have no issue with Tom O'Brien leaving BC for NC State? I am sure NC State asked permission to interview him. Hell it was the same conference and they did not make an issue of it. I dont think NC State is a step up from BC, so why did ne leave? There were rumblings that the administration and the athletic department were not on the same page. 2 successful coaches at BC leave within 2 years? Hummmmm

More information coming out:

http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2009/09/buc...abilities-.html



Looks like there was no issue with either Jags not backing Leftwich or any personality clashes or "pissing matches" as some like to call them. He just wasn't a good OC.

just goes to show that the best coordinators cannot always become successful HC's and some HC's just do not have the skill set to become coordinators