I live in TN and I heard that since Albert Haynesworth made the pro bowl, his contract makes him a free agent and forbids the Titans from using the Franchise Tag on him. Perhaps the Packers will actively persue him, they should have enough cap space. Big solid DT are very very difficult to find, hopefully we try to bring him to Green Bay this offseason.

Here's the link too http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3775006

That would be great if we could nab him. I'm usually not for just snagging any old FA out there. But Haynesworth is a very very good DT and is still fairly young yet. Plus DT is definately a position of need as far as I am concerned. It wouldn't hurt my feelings any to see Ted snag him( I won't get my hopes up though .

He's going to cash in bigger than we're willing to pay IMO.

I think we could probably get two Pickett's for what Haynesworth will get.

Yes but perhaps he's better than two picketts

Or 4 Harrell's.

Peppers would be better and most likley cheaper to sign the Haynesworth. I am not sold on Haynesworth totaly the last couple years this guy has been playing for a contract. I think if he gets his money he could do a Hunt. Peppers would give this team another pass rusher to free up the double team on Kampman and allow Jenkins to go back inside.

I agree with your take on Peppers. He is a high motor, high energy guy, not a kid, but with quite a few pro bowls left in him. For whatever the reason, D.T.'s seem to get a bit fat and lazy. Maybe just a streotype on my part, maybe Cledius is still on my mind.

yet he as injury prone as the 4 Harrells...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008/1...orth-a-fortune/

Andrew Brandt's take

I just want to see The Pack win. I hate this 5-9 stuff.

As Brandt mentioned, Haynesworth is going to draw a record $etting deal for a defensive tackle. I'm not sure this guy would be the single cure-all to all our problems on defense, but I think we all agree he would be the closest thing to it. It seems apparent that he would not only strenghten the run defense/pass rush, but would make everyone on the defense play better and be less vulnerable, especially the LBs and DBs. Perhaps no other player at any other position could accomplish this.

At end, Julius Peppers isn't going to come cheap, but would probably be a more realistic signing for the Pack and at less of an expense.

Back to the DTs. Trouble is there aren't exactly any other game changing DTs on the market in '09 besides Big Al. (And I'm not sure which lists have been updated). One list I've seen has Bernard from Seattle available next year, as well as Haye from Tampa. Solid guys. Of course there's Tank Johnson from Dallas, who's not a starter, in the 3-4 scheme but played in a 4-3 in Chicago.

The signings of Gross, the OT from Carolina, or Peppers would be reasonable requests for Ted to break out of his draftee stock-piling shell, and would improve the team instantly with talent and veteran leadership. Maybe I'm sounding far to conservative here, it's definately possible. Haynesworth could very well be worth it, but I don't anticipate Ted will pull the trigger.

Also, we've got to get Jennings extended. This guy is not trade bait, as I've been reading here and there. We must keep him because he's a huge asset to have in town. If we want our franchise to appeal to other big name FAs and compete with bigger markets, a guy like Jennings on the roster is a big plus for all parties, for the same reasons people wanted to come and play with Brett. He's the closest thing we have, anyway.

Nice inaugural post and welcome to the forum.

Sounds like you have been a lurker. Glad to see you transition from consumer to producer.

I think trading any of our receivers would be a mistake. Not that its the most crucial position on any team, just that its something to build around on offense. It goes without saying how refreshing it is to see how well they complement each other and just naturally get along. If we were to trade Driver we would lose our strongest example of a leader by example. If we traded Jennings we would be trading a player with one of the highest ceilings of anyone on the team. As for the other 3, which has been stated here before we wouldn't be able to get the value which they currently hold on the team. How about we sign Haynesworth or figure out another way to make stops on defense. I want to really see what this group can do next year.

Here the problem I have with Haynesworth, I will not break the bank on a guy how has yet to play a full season in his NFL career. That wouldn't be the smartest thing to do.

No way. The guy was average his first few seasons and then comes out to play hard the last two. Too much money and too much risk. No to Peppers. If Peppers was a Reggie White type of guy then give it a try, but he is not. Jenkins is a good player and he will be back. Now, finding another KGB is more crucial. TT seems to have whiffed on Thompson. Montgomery has played okay for a back-up, but a true 3rd down pass rusher (besides Kampman) would be the cat's ass. Someone mentioned in another post about Tank Johnson and that seems like it could happen. Maybe the guy that punched out Brady Quinn.

Trading Jennings. I don't know about that and who would you trade him for? There is a report that he wants to go to FA, but that could be bull - he may just want to wait until the season's over to avoid the distraction. I would not break the bank for this guy. He's really good, but will he be really great? Driver should be able to play out his contract at a high level. Jones is good, Nelson is good, Martin is good. Don't get me wrong I want him to stay.

I think Haynesworth will end up in Atlanta. Peppers will stay with Carolina. Gross will end up in Minnesota or Detroit. I don't think TT is gonna go big. He'll use the money to keep our good ones like Collins, Jennings, extend Kampman. I see Tank Johnson coming in, Jermaine Phillips, maybe Jabari Greer, Goff or Carlisle.

The Titans have started preliminary talks with Haynesworth about a contract extension.

Never wanted him anyways. Injury prone and hes a thug and I think he will be the next Hunt get his money and just disapper.

The Packers never get the top FA and this year will be the same. I guess it nice to dream but that's all it is.

As GM stated, the Titans are negotiating with Haynesworth, so he may not even test the FA waters, so to speak. I don't think TT goes after him anyway - not with the dollar amount he will command.

Rocky Bernard and Tank Johnson are possibilities, but these guys are merely average. We have enough of that.

Jenkins really should be playing inside even though he stout on the outside as a run defender. Our RDE position is really the spot that should be upgraded with a FA like Peppers - an every down and situation (run or pass) end. Enough of this specialization stuff. TT is in talks with Monty and Cole, but these guys are backups/rotational.

I'd be happy with Peppers and a couple high draft picks.


Haynesworth, make no mistake is a great player. But is he actually worth what he's going to get? No way. His perceived value is far greater than what he'll actually produce IMO.

http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/5225

Guys Haynesworth is NOT a 3-4 NT. He is 6'6 and most of his strength is in his upper body. If you look at him he's huge in the upper body but has smaller legs. Effective NTs are stubbier with lots of lower body strength to get leverage. Haynesworth is the best 4-3 DT in the NFL bar-none but isn't a 3-4 NT. I think it would be a bad move for the Packers to make Haynesworth the highest paid DT in NFL history to try him out at a position he's never played before.

Albert Haynesworth-DL- Titans Feb. 19 - 9:43 am et


Free agent Albert Haynesworth reportedly intends to stay in the Southeast and wants to "play for a winner."

Lions beat writer Tom Kowalski draws the conclusion that Haynesworth isn't headed to Motown. The report won't cool speculation of Haynesworth landing in Tampa. New Orleans, Miami, and Atlanta could also fit into his demands.
Source: MLive.com

Is a guy who before his last two contract years averaged like 20 tackles and 2 sacks a year worth a large contract? I say no.

What a huge upgrade he would be to Atlanta or New Orleans. Yikes.

I love the part about playing, "for a winner."

Ugh, didn't the Titans win 13 games last year?

He meant winner as in....whoever pays me the most is the winner.