LMG
Oct 28 2008, 03:46 PM
Packers get their cornerback!
We know it's early....for some...but we at PackerChatters have always been 'Draft -orientated' and we never rest.
Brian Clark, PackerChatters Mock Draft specialist, is already at it and his first NFL Mock Draft edition for 2009 is published.
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dulouz
Oct 29 2008, 04:45 AM
The write-up implies that it is a need pick. While Tramon hasn't played up to Al's bump and run reputation (according to the coaches), he has more than just filled in.
Both Harris and Woodson are at 11 years but I think their paths are diverging a little bit. Woodson seems to be undergoing somewhat of a rebirth in GB. Harris has had a good year or two recently but I wonder if he won't plateau and fall off before Woodson. If you go back more than 3 years with Harris, he was still frustrating in run support and tackling.
I see three areas that are need (Offensive Line, TE, CB), and I was wondering if you thought that CB was the "most needy". I only think CB is a need because we would be up the creek if both Harris and Woodson hung it up at the same time. It's more of a risk than a need. O-Line and TE are, well TE is just absent in our gameplan it feels like (compared to past Packers offense), and O-Line hasn't quite come together yet (from a fan perspective, not a scout or talent analyst. I am just a fan).
Alas, I must run to work...
dictator of logic
Oct 29 2008, 05:46 AM
If Davis is there, you run the card to the podium as fast as possible....but..............I just can't envision him lasting to our pick. I currently have Davis going #3 overall to Kansas City, and I have him rated as a definite top 5 prospect in this year's draft. I would rate Davis as the #1 defensive player on the board.
packinatl
Oct 29 2008, 07:45 AM
QUOTE (dictator of logic @ Oct 29 2008, 08:46 PM)

If Davis is there, you run the card to the podium as fast as possible....but..............I just can't envision him lasting to our pick. I currently have Davis going #3 overall to Kansas City, and I have him rated as a definite top 5 prospect in this year's draft. I would rate Davis as the #1 defensive player on the board.
If Cody from Alabama comes out I rate him higher than Davis but I love his game and skill set. Cody is one of those DT that can dominate a game
dictator of logic
Oct 29 2008, 12:07 PM
QUOTE (packinatl @ Oct 29 2008, 10:45 AM)

If Cody from Alabama comes out I rate him higher than Davis but I love his game and skill set. Cody is one of those DT that can dominate a game
I actually don't think Cody is as good of a prospect as Davis for a couple of reasons. First, Davis has a stronger track record to go off of. Cody has only one year in the SEC and has gotten hurt. 2nd reason is just the overall talent of Davis. He has the skillset to be a top 5 CB in the league. With that said, I'm not sure I would draft Davis over Cody. Cody has huge upside, perhaps even higher than Davis. More important IMO, Cody plays a position upon which I place a higher level of importance. I believe you build a defense starting up front, then move to CB's, get one stud LB, then fill in with adequate safeties and other LB's. I would still probably lean towards Davis because I feel he is a bit safer. Also, as much as I did not like the Harrell pick, I don't think we can give up on the kid quite yet (and I realize you have not suggested anything of the sort, I was just flowing with the train of thought).
LMG
Dec 11 2008, 07:10 PM
Brian Clark of the PackerChatters Staff has updated his NFL Mock Draft with the latest information.
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PACKmanN
Dec 11 2008, 09:45 PM
I really question the Curry pick for the Jags and the Mays pick for the 49ers. I really dislike the Davis pick for the Packers. Not addressing anything for the Packers. Plus the 2 Packers picks are, in my eyes, reaches.
Zing
Dec 12 2008, 01:35 AM
Picking up Davis makes a ton of sense to me IF we are able to pick up individuals like Jordan Gross and add depth to our D-Line (even a smaller name, per say, in DT Cody from the Lions) in FA. Right now this is how I would break down the GB's CB's:
- A.Harris (Starter and very well could be traded away in the off-season for a low draft pick)
- C.Woodson (Starter and will remain one for several more years)
- T.Williams (Starter / Nickel Back - has the talent to take over for Al if he is indeed traded)
- W.Blackmon (Return Specialist that will only remain in this position as long as he does not get out performed by J.Nelson. He is 'decent' in pass coverage but nothing spectacular)
- P.Lee (Drafted 2008, 2c, and isn't going anywhere anytime soon)
The following three, in my opinion, the Packers can do without. Neither Bush or Porter have showed any real promise.
Expendable:
- J.Bush
- J.Porter
- J.Abrams (Practice Squad)
If we don't make any big moves in FA to address either side of the line this pick seems a little silly with the talent that's still available at the #10 overall pick. I say silly because we can have the best CBs in the league but they'll look like rookies if we aren't able to put constant pressure on the QB with our man-to-man, bump-and-run coverage. All-in-all, I'd love for things to fall in place as I've addressed above and we draft David.
dictator of logic
Dec 12 2008, 06:04 AM
While I still like the Davis pick, I have soured on him a bit. His physical skills are top notch, probably better than Malcolm Jenkins IMO, but his attitude really scares me, and his play seems to be erratic this year.
I really don't like this mock overall. I think there are a ton of reaches in both rounds for many teams. Perhaps it would be more realistic to include a higher number of underclassmen? I didn't actually look to see which ones I thought were missing, but there were a lot of guys in there that I don't think belong anywhere near the spots they were drafted.
DetroitGreenBoy
Dec 12 2008, 08:51 AM
Maybe I'm missing something, but James Laurinaitis isn't in the first two rounds...?
That limits all credibility of the mock.
LMG
Dec 12 2008, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (DetroitGreenBoy @ Dec 12 2008, 08:51 AM)

Maybe I'm missing something, but James Laurinaitis isn't in the first two rounds...?
That limits all credibility of the mock.
Our error and is
updated.
RobertGoulet
Dec 17 2008, 08:29 AM
Personally if the top 9 were to play out exactly like that I wouldnt mind a trade down.(I know you cant really trade down in mocks). But if it were me I would trade down a few spots and try to grab Duke Robinson, Rey Maleuga, William Moore, Brandon Spikes, or Everett Brown all over Davis.
Besides I thought Lee was the one drafted to sit and learn behind Harris and Woodson, and I would assume Tramon would be our other starting CB of the future?
OH Packer revisited
Dec 17 2008, 12:19 PM
I would be pretty disappointed with a CB in round 1. I like tramon as an eventual starter and I think Harris and Woodson are good for another year. Besides, Lee hasn't been there a year yet. I also don't like the Shaughnessy pick. The guy is okay but an early 2nd rounder? I don't know. Boone in the late 2nd is fine by me. I think he'll be a bit undervalued due to the crapiness of his linemates this season.
PACKmanN
Dec 17 2008, 10:52 PM
still don't agree with some of these picks and where they are taken.
Vinnie
Dec 18 2008, 04:57 AM
QUOTE (PACKmanN @ Dec 18 2008, 12:52 AM)

still don't agree with some of these picks and where they are taken.
It will be interesting to see where Chris Wells goes
Wolfman
Dec 18 2008, 05:30 AM
I would MUCH rather have Chase Coffman in the 2nd rather than the DE from Wisconsin.
I have to agree with the posters that have stated we need pass-rush over everything. The Packers were hideous in that department this year. Perhaps if TT can trade down and pick up some extra picks I wouldn't mind taking some shots at guys like Shaughnessy later in the draft. But if TT doesn't do some serious upgrading of these two lines this offseason, he may not get another chance to do that in GB.
Could we add pass-rush in the 2nd by taking Ziggy Hood? A second round of Chase Coffman and Ziggy Hood would be pretty sweet!
Vinnie
Dec 18 2008, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (Wolfman @ Dec 18 2008, 07:30 AM)

I would MUCH rather have Chase Coffman in the 2nd rather than the DE from Wisconsin.
I have to agree with the posters that have stated we need pass-rush over everything. The Packers were hideous in that department this year. Perhaps if TT can trade down and pick up some extra picks I wouldn't mind taking some shots at guys like Shaughnessy later in the draft. But if TT doesn't do some serious upgrading of these two lines this offseason, he may not get another chance to do that in GB.
Could we add pass-rush in the 2nd by taking Ziggy Hood? A second round of Chase Coffman and Ziggy Hood would be pretty sweet!
I just can't see it happening unless FA is used- too many holes. Also, someone like Harrell will have to get some game.
gute
Dec 19 2008, 12:07 AM
I think Davis at #10 is too soon. On athletic ability alone, probably, but I think Selvie would be a better pick and fit TTs BPA. Now, I would not be suprised to see TT move down and take Davis and (stop the universe) move back into the first with a couple of his 2s or a 2 and 3. Philly (2 first round picks) is a possible trade partner as well as the NYJ (no second round pick). Trading up goes against what he usually does, but he did say that he tried to move up and get Lynch but the asking price was too high and he moved up to get Thompson. Stranger things have happened. Maybe TT picks Davis and moves up and grabs Selvie - I would freak out!
A guy to keep an eye on for the CB position is Cary Harris from USC. He is suppose to be a good press cover guy and his body type is similar to Harris at 6'0, 180. I think TT might grab this guy with the NYJ second round pick or our third round pick.
Wolfman
Dec 19 2008, 09:48 AM
QUOTE (Vinnie @ Dec 19 2008, 03:40 AM)

I just can't see it happening unless FA is used- too many holes. Also, someone like Harrell will have to get some game.
The second half of your post scares me almost as bad as the idea that next years' success is depending on TT going after FA's!
I agree with you, by the way. Too many holes to just try and fill them with the draft. That won't work this year. If TT tries that route
again and the Packers take the gas-pipe
again, it could spell the end of TT in Green Bay. He needs to get aggressive this off-season.
LMG
Dec 22 2008, 07:06 AM
Updated today.
dictator of logic
Feb 3 2009, 09:19 AM
Pretty solid effort overall, better than previous attempts IMO.
rpiotr01
Feb 3 2009, 10:14 AM
Seems pretty close to what I see happening. The biggest thing I hope for now is for Brown and Raji and anyone else to have a big combine to maybe propel them into the top 10, causing one of those tackles to drop.
I'm not at all against taking a corner. I think it's a position as overlooked as OT on this team and I know we need an infusion of talent for the long term there. I just don't know enough about Jenkins to really be sold on him, and these CB prospects are very hit and miss.
big ror
Feb 3 2009, 11:50 AM
Another year where Tennessee is projected to take a WR.

I see them going running back.
Hands
Feb 4 2009, 05:51 AM
I can't say when it was but ESPN's college program talked about National Signing Day. (Today) Anyway they talked about Jenkins as more of a Safety vs. a CB. If that's the case, he wouldn't be their selection. You would look at either DT or DE as possible picks.
ATLPACK99
Feb 4 2009, 12:08 PM
I'm sure Denver would be quite happy with Raji. I swear I've seen 90% of mocks that have the Falcons taking Pettigrew, which is a high number considering where they are picking. I'll take Jenkins, no problem with it whatsoever.
LMG
Mar 11 2009, 04:21 PM
LMG
Mar 31 2009, 07:30 AM
Brian Clark of our Staff has expanded his Mock Draft to 3 Rounds and has also included the Complimentary picks the NFL awarded teams.
Updated Mockhttp://www.packerchatters.com/draft/mock_draft/
ATLPACK99
Mar 31 2009, 08:03 AM
He's got Buffalo taking Michael Johnson with a mug shot and notes of Maualuga??? Maualuga is at the top of the second round with someone else. I wonder which was which? Everyone makes mistakes.
LMG
Mar 31 2009, 09:40 AM
QUOTE (ATLPACK99 @ Mar 31 2009, 09:03 AM)

He's got Buffalo taking Michael Johnson with a mug shot and notes of Maualuga??? Maualuga is at the top of the second round with someone else. I wonder which was which? Everyone makes mistakes.
My mistake...Corrected...thanks for the heads up.
the monkey soul
Mar 31 2009, 10:02 AM
No Tyson Jackson in that mock.. ?
LMG
Mar 31 2009, 10:39 AM
QUOTE (the monkey soul @ Mar 31 2009, 11:02 AM)

No Tyson Jackson in that mock.. ?
Good question...we'll have to ask.
LMG
Apr 24 2009, 10:56 AM
PackerChatters Final Mock Draft - 2 RoundsBrian Clark of our Staff offers his Final Mock Draft preceding the NFL Draft tomorrow.
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