[OLINE5904]

Ok so i was doing my usual research to see what the scouts and analysts think of the pack.

http://insider.espn....6lid%3dtab4pos1

Sorry for this link, im having problems getting it to work, but anyways.

I came across this link that talked about the most overrated and underrated WR's in the nfl. Now i have to say for the record that i have never bashed these reports, but this is just pure nuts. Saying that both Driver and Jennings are overrated as WRS is the stupidest freaking thing i have ever heard. No wonder why I have never heard of Joyner before, he is absolutely horrible.

No matter what he says Driver is one of the best out there, And Jennings being from my school TH Western Michigan Broncos is one of the better younger WR's out there. No if he can give me more to back up what he says then stats called success percentages then he might have at least a hint of an arguement. But since he doesnt even have some good proof to back it up, hes just another bum on the street to me. (I just want to say sorry if any bums are taking offense to me lumping Joyner with them)


Other then this all i have to say is go pack and let the media write you off. Youll have your time to shine and show them what you can do.

GO PACK

[OH Packer revisited]

50% of people say that 99% of statistics can be used to manipulate 42% of the data at least half the time.

I too found this article completely lacking in any sort of value.

[DAEM]

I heard Driver had more YAC than ANY wide receiever in the NFL last year... it's true.. he was 5th in the entire NFL... Look at the recievers he's beating... and the running backs... the players he's in company of ... I want to see someone twist this into something negative... then tell me he's overrated? Tell me he's getting old... pfff... Having to constantly battle stupidity is getting old... Tell me Bryant Westbrook is more of a reciever and I'll reach through the monitor and smack your dog... This is about the player... not the team and how it reflects our deficiencies as an offense... that's the easy thing to do... twist and shout, hell no, this is about a player that should get some respect... Friggin Viking fans...

Player Team
1 Steven Jackson StL 796
2 Reggie Bush NO 721
3 Brian Westbrook Phi 643
4 Kevin Jones Det 602
5 Donald Driver GB 541
6 LaDainian Tomlinson SD 538
7 Anquan Boldin Ari 504
8 Tiki Barber NYG 493
9 Ladell Betts Was 482
10 Mewelde Moore Min 481
11 Steve Smith Car 474
12 Larry Johnson KC 473
13 Frank Gore SF 466
14 Andre Johnson Hou 460
15 Maurice Jones-Drew Jac 434
16 Ahman Green GB 428
17 Chris Cooley Was 419
18 Terrell Owens Dal 400
19 Mark Clayton Bal 384
20 Marques Colston NO 376

[ricky]

OK, a slightly different opinion. I still remember when Sterling Sharpe received over 100 balls in a year. At tht time, and still, I thought he shouldn't have been a WR but a TE. Why? Because he generally caught a 2-4 yard pass, and then tried to make something out of it. Maybe RB's do this on a regular basis, but WR's? It reminds me of the time when the Packers had John Brockington- quite seriously, it seemed like the Packers were more interested in getting Brockington 1,000 yards than winning games.
Is Driver a very good receiver- or the best option Favre has in a depleted WR pool? Who else is there to throw to?
Any criticism of Jennings is too early. Unless his injury bug proves to be an annual problem (like Ferguson).

[greystroke]

I heard Driver had more YAC than ANY wide receiever in the NFL last year... it's true.. he was 5th in the entire NFL... Look at the recievers he's beating... and the running backs... the players he's in company of ... I want to see someone twist this into something negative... then tell me he's overrated? This about the player... not the team and how it reflects our deficiencies as an offense... that's the easy thing to do... twist and shout, hell no, this about a player that should get some respect... Friggin Viking fans...

Player Team
1 Steven Jackson StL 796 (RB)
2 Reggie Bush NO 721 (RB)
3 Brian Westbrook Phi 643 (RB)
4 Kevin Jones Det 602 (RB)
5 Donald Driver GB 541 (WR)
6 LaDainian Tomlinson SD 538 (RB)
7 Anquan Boldin Ari 504 (WR)
8 Tiki Barber NYG 493 (RB)
9 Ladell Betts Was 482 (RB)
10 Mewelde Moore Min 481 (RB)
11 Steve Smith Car 474 (WR)
12 Larry Johnson KC 473 (RB)
13 Frank Gore SF 466 (RB)
14 Andre Johnson Hou 460 (WR)
15 Maurice Jones-Drew Jac 434 (RB)
16 Ahman Green GB 428 (RB)
17 Chris Cooley Was 419 (H-
18 Terrell Owens Dal 400 (WR)
19 Mark Clayton Bal 384 (WR)
20 Marques Colston NO 376 (WR)

Interesting that DD was #1 in WR's with YAC.

You expect RB's to have good YAC stats. A lot of their passes are safety valve / in the flat type receptions and they have room to run after they make the catch (plus being a RB doesn't hurt their ability to get YAC either.........you could rephrase that into Yards After Contact )

Joyner's a joke.

OK, a slightly different opinion. I still remember when Sterling Sharpe received over 100 balls in a year. At tht time, and still, I thought he shouldn't have been a WR but a TE. Why? Because he generally caught a 2-4 yard pass, and then tried to make something out of it. Maybe RB's do this on a regular basis, but WR's? It reminds me of the time when the Packers had John Brockington- quite seriously, it seemed like the Packers were more interested in getting Brockington 1,000 yards than winning games.
Is Driver a very good receiver- or the best option Favre has in a depleted WR pool? Who else is there to throw to?
Any criticism of Jennings is too early. Unless his injury bug proves to be an annual problem (like Ferguson).

Good point/question Ricky, but you still have to look at DD and ask............
1.) If he's the best receiving option on the team, he must be pretty good to still get open because he's being double/triple teamed all the time by DB's.
2.) With all those DB's around him, he still makes the catch and then adds significant YAC.

I believe DD is better than advertised and if anything is underrated.
Certainly not overrated.

[DAEM]

...maybe he titled his Column incorrectly... because it still says overrated wr's but goes on to tout the sheer production of Driver by also stating facts he was 5th in receptions and 5th in total yards...???

Rank Player Team
1 Chad Johnson Cin 1369
2 Marvin Harrison Ind 1366
3t Reggie Wayne Ind 1310
3t Roy Williams Det 1310
5 Donald Driver GB 1295
6 Lee Evans Buf 1292
7 Anquan Boldin Ari 1203
8 Torry Holt StL 1188
9 Terrell Owens Dal 1180
10 Steve Smith Car 1166
11 Andre Johnson Hou 1147
12t Isaac Bruce StL 1098
12t Laveranues Coles NYJ 1098
14 Mike Furrey Det 1086
15 Javon Walker Den 1084
16 T.J. Houshmandzadeh Cin 1081
17 Joey Galloway TB 1057
18 Terry Glenn Dal 1047
19 Marques Colston NO 1038
20 Plaxico Burress NYG 988

AND fifth in total yards at his position...

Player Team
1 Andre Johnson Hou 103
2 Mike Furrey Det 98
3 Marvin Harrison Ind 95
4 Torry Holt StL 93
5 Donald Driver GB 92
6 Laveranues Coles NYJ 91
7t T.J. Houshmandzadeh Cin 90
7t Steven Jackson StL 90
9 Kellen Winslow Cle 89
10 Reggie Bush NO 88
11 Chad Johnson Cin 87
12 Reggie Wayne Ind 86
13 Terrell Owens Dal 85
14t Anquan Boldin Ari 83
14t Steve Smith Car 83
16t Jerricho Cotchery NYJ 82
16t Lee Evans Buf 82
16t Roy Williams Det 82
19 Brian Westbrook Phi 77
20t Isaac Bruce StL 74
20t Hines Ward Pit 74

[ricky]

greystroke, I agree, to a degree. But remember, this is a WR that has Brett Favre throwing to him on a regular basis. This is not Rex Grossman or Daunte Culpepper. My (revised) question stands: is Driver that good, or is Favre that good? And exactly when was it that Favre had more legitimate options than Driver? Franks at TE for two or three years in the red zone. Other than that- Schroeder? I am willing to be corrected, as always. But come up with a serious during the past few years, other than Driver.

[LosAngelis]

If you haven't noticed, there's been a bit of cooling of the Favre Fervor amongst the national media lately: kind of a "we're not as nerdy as John Madden" statement among King, Prisco, etc.

It wouldn't surprise me if Driver and Jennings are getting a little backlash from that Favre hate.

[DAEM]

If you haven't noticed, there's been a bit of cooling of the Favre Fervor amongst the national media lately: kind of a "we're not as nerdy as John Madden" statement among King, Prisco, etc.

It wouldn't surprise me if Driver and Jennings are getting a little backlash from that Favre hate.

Oh yeah, just today... Ron Jaworski called Brett Favre the most overrated QB in the NFL. Still bitter about his starting streak, I guess...

[Torveaux]

I guess I remember Sharpe catching his share of deep balls as well as making YAC.

Favre certainly helps DD, but most of the YAC is all DD.