[NeuBrew]

1 16 Ted Ginn - WR - Ohio State
The most explosive player in the draft going to a team lacking playmakers and special teams production -- seems simple. Not sure why Ginn garners so much debate, but to me he is the type of player that you gamble on. He seems like a real good kid who'd going to contribute wherever you ask him. Should fit in well with Driver and Jennings.
"Possesses world-class speed. His initial burst is exceptional and very few defensive backs -- if any -- can keep pace with him in a sprint. ...what tends to go unnoticed is his ability to change directions subtly while still accelerating. He has become more adept at reading coverages and making himself available as a "hot" receiver."

Edit: new pick due to Bush sliding.
2 47 Tim Crowder - DE - Texas
One of the most complete ends in the country could really add tremendous value along with Kampmann, Jenkins, and KGB. Value pick

3 78 Michael Bush - RB - Louisville
Edit: slid to third round due to surgery update.
The million-dollar question: where does Bush go. Assuming Lynch isn't there in the 1st, there are very few options in the second that have the potential to be star running backs. Pittman, Irons, & Jackson are good backs -- but they'll probably only be compliments to Vernand Morency. That hardly excited me. Bush, although injured, has the potential to be an impact player. Impact players are what's needed to get over the top.
"A big, powerful and fast prospect with premier running back potential in the NFL. His vision is excellent, and he does a very good job of changing direction in the backfield in order to hit the developing backside hole. Great feet for his size. "

4 111 (adjusted) Ahmad Bradshaw - RB - Marshall
Yes, another running back. Bradshaw really shows flashes on playmaking ability and along with Ginn could shore up special teams.
"Keeps head up, reads blocks well and doesn't waste a lot of motion when running between the tackles. Patient and cuts back well. Runs hard, lowers shoulder into defenders and flashes the ability to pick up yards after contact. Plays with a mean streak, shows adequate upper body strength and flashes an effective stiff arm. Has experience returning kicks and can contribute on special teams."

5 154 (adjusted) Adam Koets - OT - Oregon State
A lighter tackle who moves very will in both run and pass sets. Perfect guy to learn behind Clifton.
"Rarely takes false steps, has adequate initial quickness and can beat defenders to the point of attack. Plays with a wide base, plays with a good motor and flashes the ability to sustain blocks once in position. Shows good lateral mobility when run blocking and can seal defenders lined up over his outside shoulder."

6 189 (adjusted) Michael Allan - TE - Whitworth
Really small school, but he showed his ability in the post season. Could develop into a #1 TE.
"Is fast enough to work the seam and tracks the ball well. Shows adequate awareness and flashes the ability to locate soft spots against zone coverage. Played basketball, times jumps well and can catch the ball at its highest point. Uses frame to shield defenders from the ball, competitive and can make the tough catch in traffic. Focused, has strong hands and rarely drops balls that should catch."

7 227 (adjusted) Keith Jackson - DT - Arkansas
Short but a real sparkplug with great character. The kind of guy everyone wants in their d-line rotation.
" ...a gritty, instinctive player that uses good leverage to hold his ground and also displays a great motor pursuing the run. "

7 234 (adjusted) Derek Schouman - FB - Boise State
One of the most athletic prospects at the combine, Schouman is a converted TE who could be perfect in our scheme. He's actually very strong for his size (6'2" 235) and could be used in a number of different fashions. Miree/Schouman could be a productive FB tandem.

7 250 (compensatory) Craig Dahl - S - North Dakota State
Small school guy with great measurables that could really find a place as the 4th safety and special teamer.

[TommMixx]

The only problem with your draft is that some of the players are being selected too early. I believe the Packers could select Brian Robinson in the 4th round and Ahmad Bradshaw in the 5th.

[NeuBrew]

The only problem with your draft is that some of the players are being selected too early. I believe the Packers could select Brian Robinson in the 4th round and Ahmad Bradshaw in the 5th.

Fair enough, I tend to be a conservative mock drafter.

I think Robinson really elevated himself with the combine and that Bradshaw has great ability.

[TommMixx]

Fair enough, I tend to be a conservative mock drafter.

I think Robinson really elevated himself with the combine and that Bradshaw has great ability.

I meant to add that you did a fine overall job with your mock draft. I realize that it is possible for a player will move up a round or two as the draft approaches. I believe this may have happened with Jennings last year.

[aowen512]

I know why Ginn is rated high and would be an ok pick for the value here at 16 but my question is why you think he fits well into our scheme. Now I know football fairly well, but not like a lot of posters here. I don't like Ginn in our west coast offense. Favre likes the good tight route runners (so I think) and Ginn is very far away from being this player(perhaps why Jennings excelled until hitting rook wall). Is this something coaching can fix easily or is this something that takes a bit of talent and feel for the game to get down? There is no denying or questioning his speed. But I really don't like Favre throwing that really deep long ball. I have been against the Ginn pick for these reasons, but would really like to hear the other side to perhaps persuade me. I'm a huge The! Ohio State fan so I wouldn't mind the pick, but I'm just not sure hes good for the Packers.

If we took a big possession type receiver instead of Ginn, your draft is very sexy(well.. either way)!

[PackerBacker420]

I know why Ginn is rated high and would be an ok pick for the value here at 16 but my question is why you think he fits well into our scheme. Now I know football fairly well, but not like a lot of posters here. I don't like Ginn in our west coast offense. Favre likes the good tight route runners (so I think) and Ginn is very far away from being this player(perhaps why Jennings excelled until hitting rook wall). Is this something coaching can fix easily or is this something that takes a bit of talent and feel for the game to get down? There is no denying or questioning his speed. But I really don't like Favre throwing that really deep long ball. I have been against the Ginn pick for these reasons, but would really like to hear the other side to perhaps persuade me. I'm a huge The! Ohio State fan so I wouldn't mind the pick, but I'm just not sure hes good for the Packers.

If we took a big possession type receiver instead of Ginn, your draft is very sexy(well.. either way)!

Not knocking you aowen, but I know a lot of other posters have brought it up as well, that they don't think Ginn is a good fit for the West Coast System. Apparently, everyone seems to think that we can't stretch the field in McCarthy's system. IMO, I just think we haven't had the personnel to stretch the field. Who do we have currently that would fit the bill Driver, Jennings, Robinson, Martin, none of these players are burners. I would argue we didn't stretch the field last year, merely because we didn't have anyone to stretch the field. If we do get Ginn, and that's if we get him, I have absolutely no doubt he would fit into our system. In fact, he may be better than getting Moss, just because we wouldn't have to give up anything if he's there at 16. If we can hit Ginn deep on one play early in games, that's going to free up the running game and slants down the middle, maybe not as effective as Moss, but I think he'd do just fine. JMO

[NeuBrew]

I know why Ginn is rated high and would be an ok pick for the value here at 16 but my question is why you think he fits well into our scheme.

Certainly everyone knows Ginn can run the deep go route. That is very valuable to keep safeties on their heels and open up the middle of the field. It is also run and overthrown occasionally just to get the cornerbacks under pressure and possibly get a pass interference call.

That is not Ginn's best attribute in our offense though. One of the biggest factors in the offense we run is the ability to catch a short slant or hitch and get yards after the catch. Jennings is great at this. Driver is even better. However, neither may be as explosive as Ted Ginn. Having three receivers who can do that would be a tough matchup problem for any defense.

The biggest factor in Ginn's favor though is actually his return ability. The day he steps on an NFL field, he will be among the top 2-3 fastest players in attendance. Plus, he can make quick adjustments in his stride without losing speed. Very similar to Randy Moss. He's a gamebreaker.

Okay, so he still needs to bulk up and tighten his routes. Those are things that can be taught. His pure athletic explosiveness cannot.

[aowen512]

Well put. No offense taken. I just feel that we dont really need to stretch the field like some posters do. Just difference of opinion is all. I am currently riding the fence though after the two replies.

thx for the info fellas